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Re: Phone scam

Postby snoqueen » Wed Apr 06, 2016 8:06 pm

I've gotten those messages about a Windows virus (I run linux on the laptop), as well as calls claiming I owe the IRS (nope), I need help with my mortgage (don't have one), and a bunch of warnings about my credit card (don't have one of those either). Then there's all the people who want charitable donations, real and fake. No wonder I stopped answering the phone. If you don't answer the calls gradually decrease, but very slowly and never to zero.

The last couple weeks, I assume the sudden flurry of hang-up calls was election related. Today I only got one, from somewhere in Illinois. I ignored that one too.

Political pollsters acknowledge their methodology is in trouble due to all the people like me who simply quit answering the phone. Look, I'm sorry, but the downside is greater than the upside.

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Re: Phone scam

Postby green union terrace chair » Fri Apr 08, 2016 8:56 am

gozer wrote:os/2 warp 4

Out of all the things you've posted, gozer, this has got to be the most obscure.

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Re: Phone scam

Postby massimo » Fri Apr 08, 2016 9:03 am

"Congratulations! You recently applied for a payday loan, and we're pleased to inform you ..."

haha, nope.

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Re: Phone scam

Postby gozer » Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:19 am

green union terrace chair wrote:
gozer wrote:os/2 warp 4

Out of all the things you've posted, gozer, this has got to be the most obscure.


os/2 went all the way up to v 4.6 and is used in most automatic cash dispensers and is a favourite of accountants. it also seems to have a following amongst crowleyites as well ("do as thou wilt shall be the whole of the law"). i am actually posting right now from an os/2 4.6 machine. i b m stopped support in 2006, but that doesn't stop people any more than it does the legions of windows nt and visual basic partisans.

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Re: Phone scam

Postby fennel » Sat Apr 09, 2016 11:37 am

All this time I just assumed it was some small creature inside, à la Flintstones.

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Re: Phone scam

Postby snoqueen » Sat Apr 09, 2016 8:08 pm

fennel wrote:All this time I just assumed it was some small creature inside, à la Flintstones.


It is. It's something like a moth, actually. If I peek in the ventilation holes sometimes I can see it moving around at night.

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Re: Phone scam

Postby gozer » Sun Apr 10, 2016 9:43 am

Dust Mite Rodeo wrote:And remember, people, the legitimate IRS only accepts payment in the form of:
1) Green dot cards from the Citgo station
2) Pre-paid tracfones.


the state still takes blowjobs, chickens, and 100-litre flasks of milk.

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Re: Phone scam

Postby gargantua » Sun Apr 10, 2016 3:09 pm

gozer wrote:
Dust Mite Rodeo wrote:And remember, people, the legitimate IRS only accepts payment in the form of:
1) Green dot cards from the Citgo station
2) Pre-paid tracfones.


the state still takes blowjobs, chickens, and 100-litre flasks of milk.

Dare you to drink a 100-litre flask of milk in one sitting.

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Re: Phone scam

Postby Shorty » Thu Mar 09, 2017 9:49 am

$31,000...a new high for Dane co?

http://www.channel3000.com/news/madison ... /384946819

"It's called a “prize” scam. Someone calls you, tells you you've won a prize, and that you have to pay a fee in order to get it. Kuhnau, a retired cop, fell victim to the scam...“He wanted to surprise his kids, he wanted to give them something they'd never had before,” Craig said.

A few weeks ago, Derlan received a letter claiming he'd won more than $1 million from Publishers Clearing House. The letter was followed by multiple phone calls from scammers posing as company representatives and even lawyers, assuring him he’d won a contest.

“They made him feel so comfortable and so good, that all of this seemed so legitimate that it only could be real,” Craig said. But it wasn't legitimate. By the time Derlan realized he was being scammed, he had already wired $31,000. He was told it was for a fee he needed to pay before claiming his prize."

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Re: Phone scam

Postby Shorty » Fri Nov 10, 2017 11:25 am

Couple out $80,000 in grandparent scam
http://www.channel3000.com/news/crime/c ... /654473828

"A Madison couple was scammed out of more than $80,000 by callers claiming to be their grandson, according to a release. The husband and wife, who are in their 80s, received several tearful calls from someone pretending to be their grandson, and who had handed the phone off to someone claiming to be a police officer, officials said.

The couple was told the grandson had been a passenger in a car where drugs were found, and that money was needed for bail and legal fees, according to the release."

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Re: Phone scam

Postby Bwis53 » Fri Nov 10, 2017 3:13 pm

I got the IRS recording recently. They claimed that they'd been trying to contact me for six months. If they're trying to sue me, they'd mail or serve me. Someone with much more education than me, actually fell for that...

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Re: Phone scam

Postby Prof. Wagstaff » Fri Nov 10, 2017 4:04 pm

Shorty wrote:Couple out $80,000 in grandparent scam
http://www.channel3000.com/news/crime/c ... /654473828

"A Madison couple was scammed out of more than $80,000 by callers claiming to be their grandson, according to a release. The husband and wife, who are in their 80s, received several tearful calls from someone pretending to be their grandson, and who had handed the phone off to someone claiming to be a police officer, officials said.

The couple was told the grandson had been a passenger in a car where drugs were found, and that money was needed for bail and legal fees, according to the release."


I sympathize with anyone who gets scammed, I really do. But this is literally the most famous scam in the history of scamming. It's called The Spanish Prisoner. See, you've heard of it, haven't you? How this well-known and little-changed scam can continue to work for centuries is a real testament to the persistence of human gullibility.

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Re: Phone scam

Postby Shorty » Fri Nov 10, 2017 4:30 pm

I never heard of it until recent years. I don't see this scam being internet related, it's just a fake phone call and wiring money. So I'm puzzled why it's such a problem in recent years.

Are there more elderly people with good sized bank accounts than there used to be? Or do scammers use the internet to find their victims?

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Re: Phone scam

Postby Prof. Wagstaff » Fri Nov 10, 2017 4:52 pm

Shorty wrote:I'm puzzled why it's such a problem in recent years.

Which part of "this scam is centuries old" is confusing you into thinking it's a recent problem?

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Re: Phone scam

Postby snoqueen » Fri Nov 10, 2017 4:52 pm

I've gotten a whole flurry of scam calls in recent weeks, sometimes >4 a day. The most bizarre are the Windows virus ones (I still don't run Windows, guys). I never ever pick up phone calls, but these persistent entrepreneurs have started leaving messages. In turn, I've started archiving them for their entertainment value.

The speakers are male, very gruff and fierce-sounding, introduce themselves with a variety of military-style ranks (Sergeant whatever), and all speak with accents I take to be central European or even Russian. They've begun threatening to suspend my ISP number or some such dire plan if I don't call them back.

It's like having raccoons under my porch.

I am grateful they only seem to have my garbage phone number and not the one I actually carry with me and look at from time to time. Maybe they bought a tranche of very outdated account info from an old Yahoo security breach.

The only defense I can think of is to continually change our phone numbers and our email accounts.
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