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Shutdown

Postby Shorty » Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:37 am

Eloquent Cardi B is right. This is crazy, b--h! What is summonsing?

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/car ... 19376.html

"“Hey, y’all. I just wanna remind you because it’s been a bit over three weeks, OK? It’s been a little bit over three weeks. Trump is now ordering, as in summonsing, federal government workers to go back to work without getting paid. Now I don’t wanna hear y’all motherf—ers talking about, ‘Oh, but Obama shut down the government for 17 days.’ Yeah, b—h! For health care! So your grandma could check her blood pressure [and females can go to] the gynecologist with no f—ing problem. Now I know a lot of y’all don’t care because y’all don’t work for the government, or y’all probably don’t even have a job, but this s— is really f—ing serious, bro. This s— is crazy. Like, our country is in a hellhole right now, all for a f—ing wall. We really need to take some action, I feel like we need to take some action. I don’t know what type of action, b—-, because this is not what I do. But b—-, I’m scared. This is crazy. I really feed bad for these people who that have to go back to work and not get paid.”"

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Re: Shutdown

Postby Shorty » Fri Jan 25, 2019 8:33 am

‘This is your fault’: GOP senators clash over shutdown inside private luncheon
https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpos ... 337d666918

"Republican senators clashed with one another and confronted Vice President Pence inside a private luncheon on Thursday, as anger hit a boiling point over the longest government shutdown in history.

“This is your fault,” Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) told Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) at one point, according to two Republicans who attended the lunch and witnessed the exchange. “Are you suggesting I’m enjoying this?” McConnell snapped back, according to the people who attended the lunch."

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Re: Shutdown

Postby Paleo2 » Fri Jan 25, 2019 8:52 am

Shorty wrote:‘This is your fault’: GOP senators clash over shutdown inside private luncheon
https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpos ... 337d666918

"Republican senators clashed with one another and confronted Vice President Pence inside a private luncheon on Thursday, as anger hit a boiling point over the longest government shutdown in history.

“This is your fault,” Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) told Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) at one point, according to two Republicans who attended the lunch and witnessed the exchange. “Are you suggesting I’m enjoying this?” McConnell snapped back, according to the people who attended the lunch."


Sometimes people wonder why I don’t hate Ron Johnson. This is one example.

It is a given that just about anyone in the Senate has sold his or her soul to some extent. It seems to me Ron Johnson really believes most of what he says and does, and is less of a scumbag than the average GOP Senator.

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Re: Shutdown

Postby Shorty » Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:52 am

FAA: Flights delayed at major US airports due to staffing
https://www.channel3000.com/lifestyle/f ... /988989845

""We have experienced a slight increase in sick leave at two air traffic control facilities affecting New York and Florida," the FAA said in a statement.

"As with severe storms, we will adjust operations to a safe rate to match available controller resources. We've mitigated the impact by augmenting staffing, rerouting traffic, and increasing spacing between aircraft as needed."

The delays -- as the partial federal government shutdown marks its 35th day -- come less than two days after the president of a major air traffic controllers union warned that the ongoing shutdown poses a major safety risk. Air traffic workers are making "routine mistakes" due to high levels of stress caused by the shutdown, Paul Rinaldi, president of the National Air Traffic Controllers Association, told CNN on Wednesday night."

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Re: Shutdown

Postby IU2Bmanoletters » Fri Jan 25, 2019 4:32 pm

THANK GAWD, for all those who have current plans to fly, eat, recuperate or any other routine activity at least partially enabled by those much maligned Federal Government workers.
On the other hand, as you all know yourselves... we are in the hands of a malicious adolescent named Donnie. It ain't over till it's REALLY over.
"Trump caves on shutdown, endorses reopening government for 3 weeks:"
https://www.vox.com/2019/1/25/18197510/ ... down-trump

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Re: Shutdown

Postby scratch » Fri Jan 25, 2019 7:23 pm

Paleo2 wrote:Sometimes people wonder why I don’t hate Ron Johnson. This is one example.
It is a given that just about anyone in the Senate has sold his or her soul to some extent. It seems to me Ron Johnson really believes most of what he says and does, and is less of a scumbag than the average GOP Senator.


That's pretty much what the in-laws in Iowa say about Grassley.

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Re: Shutdown

Postby gozer » Sat Jan 26, 2019 1:29 am

scratch wrote:
Paleo2 wrote:Sometimes people wonder why I don’t hate Ron Johnson. This is one example.
It is a given that just about anyone in the Senate has sold his or her soul to some extent. It seems to me Ron Johnson really believes most of what he says and does, and is less of a scumbag than the average GOP Senator.


That's pretty much what the in-laws in Iowa say about Grassley.


* nods gravely in the affirmative *

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Re: Shutdown

Postby gozer » Sat Jan 26, 2019 1:35 am

so trump signs a bill to at least provisionally halt the partial shutdown on day 35, much to the outrage of folks like ann coke-ter. people wonder why. well, i'll tell u why: he didn't want to see day 36, a very important number in qabbalism and other abrahamic and other traditions -- someone convinced trump that tomorrow (26. january 2019) that he'd have jehovah on the front lawn of the white house and the archangel michael following him to florida if he decamped to there . . . balls of fire, brimstone, dogs & cats living together . . .

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Re: Shutdown

Postby Cadfael » Sat Jan 26, 2019 9:28 am

I have a difficult time imagining that someone with that kind of credentials would have made it into Trump's inner circle and then stayed long enough to convince him of these things.

I am more inclined to think someone manipulated him into believing he would win if he ended the shutdown before a midair collision happened.

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Re: Shutdown

Postby gozer » Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:50 pm

he's apparently got 20 days or so before another shutdown becomes a possibility . . . if the wall is such an important thing and it costs around $5b, couldn't he pass a hat amongst the plutocrats interested in such a thing? then he could brag about going completely over the head of everyone in the federal government . . .

i have been a big pelosi fan ab initio pretty much . . . last week's events gave me a warm fuzzy feeling . . . she essentially tripped trump . . .

presumably the $5b version is easier to surmount, tunnel under, and destroy in places than the $30b proposal . . . what was the latter, by the way, titanium slats instead of steel? maybe it will be a good idea to invest in companies which make ladders, shovels, and pogo sticks, not to mention drones and pieces for spud cannons, the latter two of which can be used for light payloads which need to go over . . .

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Re: Shutdown

Postby gargantua » Mon Jan 28, 2019 9:36 pm

The $5.7 billion is just a down payment. The cost of a 2000 mile long structure is literally incalculable. There are estimates, but there will be legal battles, logistical issues, change orders.
Kind of like a Foxconn boondoggle scaled up nationally.

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Re: Shutdown

Postby pjbogart » Mon Jan 28, 2019 10:59 pm

Paleo2 wrote:It seems to me Ron Johnson really believes most of what he says and does, and is less of a scumbag than the average GOP Senator.



He's pretty high up the heirarchy to go with the "he doesn't know any better" schtick. Ron Johnson is a moronic ass. Yeah, he SHOULD know better, and he has congressional staffers to make SURE he knows better. But he doesn't know better. That's his choice.

Ask him if Obamacare is "socialized medicine". Maybe do a Google search on his appearances on Vicki McKenna's show. Ron Johnson is a GOP conspiracy theorist extraordinaire. He toes the party line, even when it marches him straight off a cliff. He has no morals or scruples. He'd tell you all about dirty Mexicans casting illegal votes or complain about Hillary Clinton's e-mail server.

The man has ZERO integrity. You're getting the wrong news feed. Pay attention to what he says to fellow REPUBLICANS. That will tell you what you need to know about Ron Johnson.

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Re: Shutdown

Postby gozer » Tue Jan 29, 2019 4:13 am

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Re: Shutdown

Postby gozer » Tue Jan 29, 2019 4:16 am

if johnson actually thinks obamacare, which isn't even good socialism, is socialised medicine, i say he is in the bonehead category, almost quaint compared to some of his counterparts in the state legislature and some folks on capitol hill . . . perhaps "evil" is maybe a rather strong word when it comes to describing politicians in an ostensible democracy, but if the shoe fits . . .

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Re: Shutdown

Postby gozer » Tue Jan 29, 2019 4:27 am

gargantua wrote:The $5.7 billion is just a down payment. The cost of a 2000 mile long structure is literally incalculable. There are estimates, but there will be legal battles, logistical issues, change orders.
Kind of like a Foxconn boondoggle scaled up nationally.


i was in southern california on the day they did the human chain across the country to help the homeless and i remember there were desert regions which they traversed with ropes and chains because they were too dangerous because of terrain, weather, wildlife such as gila monsters and rattlesnakes &c chupacabras for all we know -- maybe trump's wall will have to resort to such expedients such as 100-km chains with signs on them saying "do not enter/no entrar" . . . one just needs a decent bolt cutter to make quick work of that kind of thing . . .

as we saw in 2008-9 and earlier in the decade, if there are people who are really deep down concerned about the culture of the country changing because of immigration, documented and not, all they need to do is crash the economy to shut off and reverse the flow, and we know that is within their abilities . . . it makes no sense anyways because a gastarbeiter by definition is going to go back when they make their wad/send back enough . . . what an horrible and fact-free thing for people to think, given that big chunks of the south-west as well as florida have been part of latin america from the outset in a lot of respects . . .


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