Paleo2 wrote:Even the Progressive Dane Party had more electoral success than many of the “national” third parties.
At least they organized from the ground up. They just had a few road bumps when they actually had power for a while.
from what i have seen, the p d c & fellow travellers' organising strategy has been remarkable and helped the cause immensely. from what i can tell, ideological orthodoxy and and similar problems have been their partial undoing as well, as it always is, given that in many cases inflexible ideologues and the like are a well-known species of stupid, and stupid is as stupid does, as the kids say . . .
what kind of connexion if any does p d c have to black lives matter? it is actually rather important, with b l m being a major segment of the xxi. century movement for the civil rights and an inspiration to movements with a similar format such as the xican@, other hispanic citizens' and native american/first nations civil rights movements and others.
p d c were the folks who absorbed the labour & farm party and a couple of smaller ones and perhaps some community organisations as well, correct? or was there another intermediate organisation for a short time like the peace & freedom party? . . . this was after the november 1992 election and what got it going was a very strong second-place finish for long time l f p /p l a activist and madison school board member and erstwhile mayoral candidate (1987?) mary kay baum for the open general assembly seat in the lxxviii. district downtown, which went to then-dane county supervisor and now congressperson tammy baldwin . . . the other candidate being a republican who got 18 per cent of the vote in the general election.
p d c and the statewide organisation actually kept the l f p -p l a ballot line -- with a name change -- for at least four more years by fielding a very good candidate for state treasurer who got a little over three per cent of the vote statewide where one percent was the threshold, at least it was back then . . .
in summary, p d c and the state level folks did a decent job for an organisation ostensibly opposed not only by the republican and u s taxpayers and libertarian parties, but also an entire axis of factions within the county and state democratic parties as well as other factions . . . and, if i remember correctly, the green party at that time continued working alongside p d c to the extent they could, and back then some members were trying out the what would become the semi-official democratic party critique of the 2000 election for president. the greens, of course, not only put up the candidate but also, to the best of my knowledge and belief, did not display the same peevishness and sense of entitlement to green votes that the democratic party showed about the nader candidature and the end results. my reason for writing in h r c & lieberman in 2000 was that i was still furious about gore going up to québec in 1995 and slinging his organically well-fed arse around and making threats in the days leading up to the 30. october 1995 plebiscite* . . .
time for the political organisers, pundits &c within the democratic party to be more circumspect about frustration with the nader situation turning into bashing fellow progressives, liberals, socialists and syndicalists of all stripes, environmentalists, trade unionists, farmers, and moderates . . . especially given that something like 10 to 18 per cent of sanders voters stayed home in november or handed in undervoted ballots and anywhere from 23 to 38 per cent voted for trump.
another thing of the same sort.
* so how is this acceptable to anyone wanting to nail people for colluding with russia? in any case doesn't it further the cause of peace if only a little bit? cold war nostalgia, anti-slavonic proclivities -- where did it start and where does it end? it is sort of like a snake swallowing its own tail, u dig? far be it from me to say that agent orange should get a nobel prize for pumping down the volume, yet i believe was the reasoning behind the one that b h o got in 2009 . . .
† props to the broadcaster formerly known as garrison keillor . . .