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Re: Election voter suppression

Postby gargantua » Thu Mar 22, 2018 8:48 pm

Roy wrote:
Hillary would have won without voter suppression.


How about if we suppress the illegal alien vote only?

Since it's virtually nonexistent, I'd take you up on that. Your side makes it easy for eligible voters to cast a ballot. I'll support zero illegal aliens voting.

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Re: Election voter suppression

Postby snoqueen » Thu Mar 22, 2018 9:51 pm

Illegal aliens (people without documents, to the rest of us) don't vote, silly. Do you think they're going to put themselves at risk for that? They have enough to worry about driving down the road to pick their kids up from school.

If you can show data demonstrating undocumented voters, go ahead. Kansas tried, and they couldn't find any no matter what they did. If you're smarter than Kansas, now's your chance to shine.

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Re: Election voter suppression

Postby gargantua » Thu Mar 22, 2018 10:17 pm

[quote="snoqueen"If you're smarter than Kansas, now's your chance to shine.[/quote]
I was thinking about what a low bar that was, but then I remembered our governor.

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Re: Election voter suppression

Postby jman111 » Thu Mar 22, 2018 10:44 pm

gozer wrote:...another kettle of fish entirely . . .

kettle of fish
Random thought. Reminds me of watching the Fail Mary game against the Seahawks. If you ever happen to be in Greenwich Village and want to watch the Packers, the game is on here.

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Re: Election voter suppression

Postby DCB » Fri Mar 23, 2018 9:02 am

snoqueen wrote:If you can show data demonstrating undocumented voters, go ahead. Kansas tried, and they couldn't find any no matter what they did. If you're smarter than Kansas, now's your chance to shine.

Kris "K" Kobach is trying to defend his voter suppression law in court. It is not going very well for him.

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Re: Election voter suppression

Postby DCB » Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:16 pm

Here is one bright spot in the otherwise bleak voting rights world: the KS law is ruled unconstitutional.

In part, this is because it was being defended by Kobach, who is a idiot. As noted above, he did a very bad job. How bad?
As a sanction, Kobach must take six hours of continuing law education in addition to any hours required for his law license.


Kobach is currently the KS Sec. of State. He has to back to law school.
-- edit to correct his current title

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Re: Election voter suppression

Postby DCB » Fri Aug 10, 2018 7:55 am

When we last left Kris "K" Kobach, he was being a very bad lawyer defending a very bad, racist law. That's kind of his thing.
In 1981, he gave a speech in South Africa in which he warned that the apartheid government should absolutely not give black people full suffrage,

(Trump put him in charge of his racist "voter integrity" group, but they had to disband because Kobach really sucks at everything he does. )

In fact, he has earned quite a bit of money doing just that. His scam was:
* fear-mongering about "illegals" in small towns
* getting paid to write bad, racist laws
* failing to defend his bad, racists laws (because he is a very bad lawyer)
In Fremont, Neb., the city raised property taxes to pay for Kobach’s services. None of the towns are currently enforcing the laws he helped craft.
Ha ha - conservatives had to raise taxes.

K."K". Kobach is now running for Governor of KS. The Republican primary was Tuesday, and the votes are too close to call. So there will be a recount. The Sec. State is in charge of the recount.

So, the guy famous for bad voting laws is in charge of the recount of his own election.
“It has come to my attention that your office is giving advice to county election officials — as recently as a conference call yesterday — and you are making public statements on national television which are inconsistent with Kansas law and may serve to suppress the vote in the ongoing primary election process,” Colyer said in a letter.
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“We’ve received countless reports that voters experienced issues when they voted on Tuesday. Many Colyer voters had difficulties finding his name on the ballot, were forced to vote on provisional ballots, or were turned away outright for unknown reasons,” Marr said in a news release.



Read more here: https://www.kansascity.com/news/politic ... rylink=cpy

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Re: Election voter suppression

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Re: Election voter suppression

Postby Henry Vilas » Tue Aug 14, 2018 2:39 pm

Here is what Madison is doing to counter suppression/meddling.


Wisconsin’s Election Commission is taking steps to make sure ballots and voting machines are protected in today's Primary Election. This comes as there's increased national attention on election hacking and voter fraud.

Dane County Clerk Scott McDonell tells News 3 a lot of work has gone into planning in making today go off without a hitch, but he why many eyes are on election security right now after Wisconsin was one of the states targeted by Russian hacking in the 2016 election.

"We have a paper trail of everything so there is a paper ballot associated with everyone's vote,” McDonell said. “We test those ballots multiple times. Afterwards, we audit them. So after the election we will pull the ballots out from every ward, count them and make sure they match the machine."

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Re: Election voter suppression

Postby Henry Vilas » Tue Aug 14, 2018 7:05 pm

Now to Georgia.

Georgia's shotgun-toting, Trump-style Republican candidate for governor Brian Kemp has sought to assure voters that his state's election system is secure and that any allegations to the contrary are "fake news."

But Kemp, who is also the secretary of state in charge of Georgia's elections, is now being accused in a federal lawsuit of failing to secure his state's voting system and allowing a massive breach that exposed voter records and other sensitive election information.


6 million Georgia voters' records exposed

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Re: Election voter suppression

Postby Shorty » Mon Oct 01, 2018 8:33 am

Is Will Flanders related to Ned? Sounds like him.

Voter ID linked to lower turnout in Wisconsin, other states; students, people of color, elderly most
https://www.channel3000.com/news/voter- ... /801316170

"Will Flanders, research director at the Wisconsin Institute for Law and Liberty, said the study “pushed a narrative” of voter suppression but did not actually prove it.

Flanders said black and low-income voters who did not vote were “more likely to cite the lack of voter ID,” but the differences were not statistically significant. He also claimed the study suffered from a small sample size and, because of self-selection bias, the results were not representative.

“It is fundamentally misleading to say that all of those who claimed they did not vote because of the law could not do so,” Flanders wrote. “The most this survey can claim to prove is that the administration of the law could have been improved or that the candidates could have run better ground games.”"

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Re: Election voter suppression

Postby DCB » Wed Oct 24, 2018 7:54 am

Henry Vilas wrote:Now to Georgia.

But Kemp, who is also the secretary of state in charge of Georgia's elections, is now being accused in a federal lawsuit of failing to secure his state's voting system and allowing a massive breach that exposed voter records and other sensitive election information.


6 million Georgia voters' records exposed

His incompetence at doing his job is really over-shadowed by his malicious efforts at disenfranchising voters.
voter turnout operation “continues to concern us, especially if everybody uses and exercises their right to vote,”

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/p ... ng-745711/

A handful of states, most of them led by Republicans, are using someone's decision not to vote as the trigger for removing them from the rolls. No state has been more aggressive with this approach than Georgia, where Brian Kemp, the secretary of state, oversaw the purging of a growing number of voters ahead of his own run for governor, according to an APM Reports investigation.

emphasis mine. Using your current elected position to rig the election for your next elected position is a pretty bold move.

https://www.apmreports.org/story/2018/1 ... oter-purge

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Re: Election voter suppression

Postby jonnygothispen » Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:01 am

JC pens an 'official' letter to Kemp...

October 22, 2018

To Secretary of State Brian Kemp:

I have officially observed scores of doubtful elections in many countries, and one of the key requirements for a fair and trusted process is that there be nonbiased supervision of the electoral process.


In Georgia’s upcoming gubernatorial election, popular confidence is threatened not only by the undeniable racial discrimination of the past and the serious questions that the federal courts have raised about the security of Georgia’s voting machines, but also because you are now overseeing the election in which you are a candidate. This runs counter to the most fundamental principle of democratic elections — that the electoral process be managed by an independent and impartial election authority. Other secretaries of state have stepped down while running for election within their jurisdiction, to ensure that officials without a direct stake in the process can take charge and eliminate concerns about a conflict of interest.

In order to foster voter confidence in the upcoming election, which will be especially important if the race ends up very close, I urge you to step aside and hand over to a neutral authority the responsibility of overseeing the governor’s election. This would not address every concern, but it would be a sign that you recognize the importance of this key democratic principle and want to ensure the confidence of our citizens in the outcome.

Sincerely, Jimmy Carter

The Honorable Brian F. Kemp
Secretary of State
214 State Capitol
Atlanta, Georgia 30334

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Re: Election voter suppression

Postby gargantua » Mon Oct 29, 2018 4:13 pm

Very reasonable. Too bad that Kemp doesn't care about public confidence in the outcome. He just wants to win, and is willing to do whatever it takes.

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Re: Election voter suppression

Postby Henry Vilas » Mon Oct 29, 2018 4:24 pm

gargantua wrote:Very reasonable. Too bad that Kemp doesn't care about public confidence in the outcome. He just wants to win, and is willing to do whatever it takes.

It's all for the greater good. Just ask You Must Be Joking.


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