President Trump's cabinet

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Re: President Trump's cabinet

Postby Cadfael » Wed Sep 05, 2018 6:34 pm

Henry Vilas wrote:Can you imagine who a President Pence would nominate to the Supreme Court?

Vividly.

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Re: President Trump's cabinet

Postby dooley » Wed Sep 05, 2018 8:25 pm

Henry Vilas wrote:After the Kavanaugh nomination is confirmed, Trump's inner circle will throw him under the bus by pushing for a 25th Amendment solution. Can you imagine who a President Pence would nominate to the Supreme Court?


That's got to be the best case scenario for Democrats. The deep state Republicans remove the president and alienate a bunch of the base making them apathetic about voting.

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Re: President Trump's cabinet

Postby Cadfael » Wed Sep 05, 2018 8:55 pm

dooley wrote:
Henry Vilas wrote:After the Kavanaugh nomination is confirmed, Trump's inner circle will throw him under the bus by pushing for a 25th Amendment solution. Can you imagine who a President Pence would nominate to the Supreme Court?


That's got to be the best case scenario for Democrats. The deep state Republicans remove the president and alienate a bunch of the base making them apathetic about voting.

Kind of a two edged sword. "Nuts, you've voted us out! All we were able to do was pack the Supreme Court, repeal every regulation we didn't like, pass quite a few laws we did like, make all our contractor friends happy, empty some bank accounts, install lackies in every department, sell off the national parks and beat the hell out of the ACA.

Well, here's the keys."

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Re: President Trump's cabinet

Postby Cadfael » Wed Sep 05, 2018 10:10 pm

Word rolling around the internet is that the anonymous op ed writer used the word "lodestar" and everyone's searching to find out who the heck in the White House uses that word.

So far the only one found using it, in 2017, is the Vice President.

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Re: President Trump's cabinet

Postby pjbogart » Wed Sep 05, 2018 10:51 pm

Cadfael wrote:Word rolling around the internet is that the anonymous op ed writer used the word "lodestar" and everyone's searching to find out who the heck in the White House uses that word.

So far the only one found using it, in 2017, is the Vice President.


As much as people here hate Mike Pence, that actually creates a really interesting scenario. If Pence goes public as the anonymous source, he has the opportunity to cajole Republicans in Congress to rethink their support for Trump. He's one of them, he's a reliable conservative, and he can be trusted to pursue their agenda. He doesn't serve at the pleasure of the President... he's an elected official, so he can also cajole members of the Administration to invoke the 25th Amendment. Essentially, Donald Trump is unfit for office. We all know that. About 60% of the country seems to agree.

But isn't there a bigger story here? Donald Trump is correct when he says that "fake news" is a real problem in our country. It's corrupting our democracy. People aren't voting for the best candidate because they don't know who the best candidate is. Liars on talk radio, FoxNews and a plethora of right-wing websites have created a nation of nitwits. Donald Trump isn't BATTLING "fake news", he's a product of it. Without "fake news", Donald Trump wouldn't have even survived the primary, much less been elected President.

And again, after the New York TImes' "mole" broke silence, Trump suggested that we need to look closer at our libel laws. Absolutely! What Trump doesn't realize is that if politicians and news outlets are held to the same libel standards as private citizens, the Republican propaganda machine will collapse.

Frankly, it's the best idea Donald Trump ever had.

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Re: President Trump's cabinet

Postby Cadfael » Wed Sep 05, 2018 11:03 pm

Give him a few days. He'll manage to fuck it up.

And at the same time he'll prove his base is pretty much the same size it's always been and maybe a tad bit ornerier.

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Re: President Trump's cabinet

Postby Shorty » Thu Sep 06, 2018 7:26 pm

Full article.

I Am Part of the Resistance Inside the Trump Administration
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/05/opin ... tance.html

"Meetings with him veer off topic and off the rails, he engages in repetitive rants, and his impulsiveness results in half-baked, ill-informed and occasionally reckless decisions that have to be walked back....Take foreign policy: In public and in private, President Trump shows a preference for autocrats and dictators, such as President Vladimir Putin of Russia and North Korea’s leader, Kim Jong-un, and displays little genuine appreciation for the ties that bind us to allied, like-minded nations."

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Re: President Trump's cabinet

Postby Henry Vilas » Sat Sep 08, 2018 3:11 pm

Henry Vilas wrote:Betsy DeVos says she won't stand in way of schools buying guns

Public schools are underfunded the way it is. This expenditure of scare federal school aid is not a wise use of that money.

Here is a corollary to the above:

School officials in Wisconsin aren't so sure bulletproof backpacks are an answer to possible violence in the classroom.

WAOW-TV reports that BlueStone Safety Products' bulletproof backpack inserts are lightweight panels about the size of a laptop that are designed to deflect bullets. The inserts costs from $118 to $200. The company also sells $800 protection vests for teachers and staff.

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Re: President Trump's cabinet

Postby Bwis53 » Fri Sep 14, 2018 3:34 pm

Woman accuses Kavanaugh of assault in letter to senator
https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/14/politics ... index.html
A woman is accusing Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh of assaulting her when they were in high school in the early 1980s, according to a source familiar with the allegations, which were relayed in a letter to Sen. Dianne Feinstein earlier this summer.

Another Clarence Thomas?

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Re: President Trump's cabinet

Postby Paleo2 » Sat Sep 15, 2018 4:13 am

Bwis53 wrote:Woman accuses Kavanaugh of assault in letter to senator
https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/14/politics ... index.html
A woman is accusing Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh of assaulting her when they were in high school in the early 1980s, according to a source familiar with the allegations, which were relayed in a letter to Sen. Dianne Feinstein earlier this summer.

Another Clarence Thomas?


No.

Clarence Thomas was accused of harassment, not assault.

Thomas was accused of doing those things shortly before his nomination, rather than during HS.

There are some similarities, but one is accused of a crime while a juvenile, the other of boorish behavior as an adult.

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Re: President Trump's cabinet

Postby gargantua » Sat Sep 15, 2018 10:02 am

I am opposed to Kavanaugh's nomination for other reasons. That said, I find the timing and nature of this allegation to be oddly convenient. I'm not saying that it didn't happen, but how can we ever really know?

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Re: President Trump's cabinet

Postby gozer » Sun Sep 16, 2018 8:42 am

all this time i don't recall kavanaugh mention anything about other catholic teachings such as social justice, distributism, subsidiarity (which can also be the basis of a pro-choice argument), support for organised labour, taking care of the poor, solidarity, some form of centrism with elements of non-marxian socialism, opposition to various wars, no despoiling the planet for those coming later . . . it's all in there: rerum novarum, 15.v.1891, quadregesimo anno (15.v.1931) and other followup documents issued by the church in support of such things. . . then again, i guess we cannot all be angela merkel, right? tolerance and acceptance of those who are different in one way or another (pope francis, comments "who am i to judge?") and so forth. also, i may be wrong, but i have not heard him opposing capital punishment . . .

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Re: President Trump's cabinet

Postby Weather Bob » Mon Sep 17, 2018 1:44 pm

Right now some poor individual is having her career incinerated and her family harassed by online mobs, because she happens to be named "Christine A. Ford" and a bunch of right-wing websites (Drudge, Gateway Pundit, etc.) incorrectly told their followers that she's the "Christine B. Ford" of the Kavanaugh allegations.



... and people wonder why women are reluctant to come forward about stuff like this.

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Re: President Trump's cabinet

Postby Henry Vilas » Tue Oct 09, 2018 10:47 am

UN Ambassador Nikki Haley unexpectedly resigned. Speculation why abounds. Will fellow South Carolinian Lindsey Graham leave the Senate and join Trump's cabinet as Attorney General, and Haley be appointed to replace him? Is it because she frequently travels by private jet at government expense and doesn't want to be caught up in a scandal?

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Re: President Trump's cabinet

Postby Polka_Tulk » Tue Oct 09, 2018 3:38 pm

Henry Vilas wrote:UN Ambassador Nikki Haley unexpectedly resigned. Speculation why abounds. Will fellow South Carolinian Lindsey Graham leave the Senate and join Trump's cabinet as Attorney General, and Haley be appointed to replace him? Is it because she frequently travels by private jet at government expense and doesn't want to be caught up in a scandal?

Haley was just a baton twirler for the clepto State-CIA UN psyop marching band. I see Yemen is a huge fracking play.


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