Is it time to boycott Football?

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Is it time to boycott Football?

Postby Paleo2 » Mon Oct 16, 2017 3:25 pm

I had an interesting discussion with a cousin recently. He is a huge sports fan. Mostly baseball, but also football.
He said he is trying to boycott football entirely, although he admits he watches a game if it's already showing.

His reasoning, with which I agree, is that from what we know now, football is too violent a sport. Years ago we didn't know how badly the brains were battered, but we do now.

Did CTE contribute to Aaron Hernandez' murder spree? Or OJ Simpson's crimes? I have no idea.

There are some on the right who boycott the NFL because of the kneeling.
There are some on the left who boycott the NFL because of the alleged blackballing of Colin Kaepernick.
I have run across some articles written by folks who are boycotting college football because of the culture of campus rapes, exemplified by Baylor.

Politics aside, there are some valid reasons to boycott the NFL.

From my perspective, the worst aspects of the NFL game itself could be seen with the notorious hits on Davante Adams and Aaron Rodgers. The latter of those was a "clean" hit. Meaning that a hit that caused serious injury was just a normal part of the game. Or, how about OBJ's broken ankle, for Giants fans?

The worst aspects of the toxic atmosphere of college football can be seen in schools like Baylor or Penn State. Or Jamais Winston running wild at FSU, having everything covered up so he could play in the NFL.

The worst part of high school football? For me that was last year when one of my kids was reading tweets by a girl who was visiting her boyfriend in the hospital, right after a serious injury in a HS game in Madison, wondering whether he would ever walk again.

I must admit to being a hypocrite. I can avoid Badgers games because I don't have cable. I have been watching the Packers, though. It will be easier NOT to watch them without Rodgers.

Right now I am very glad of one thing. At one point, people were telling one of my kids he would be a great wide receiver. He almost tried out for football, but he missed some deadlines. I am so very, very glad. The HS QB son of one of my friends had 3 concussions in one season. (My son was offered spots on some good Ultimate teams a few times, but always turns it down because he does a different sport. Ultimate bothers me a lot less than football, though.)

So, what can we do?

Not much. The game is way too popular. However, if fewer of us watch the games, the game will slowly wither. If we keep our sons out of the game, the game will wither faster. If we don't get BTN and ESPN and other networks that have football, the game will wither.

Well, my son didn't play football. That helps. I can watch fewer games, perhaps encourage people to watch fewer games, and so on. And that will have a small effect on the game.

If the game of football dies, or else goes through a radical change, it will be because of government intervention. Remember, over 100 years ago the game was banned. The forward pass was a way to reduce injury, which led it to be un-banned. This time it won't be Teddy Roosevelt killing the game. It will be the courts. It will be lawsuits to the point where high schools will no longer put teams on the field due to liability concerns.

What will take it's place? I haven't a clue.

50 years ago, the most popular sports included baseball, horse racing, boxing and college football. Some of those, especially horse racing, have dropped in popularity. The NFL kind of took over. Tom Brady the big star rather than Secretariat.

100 years ago, college rowing was a huge sport, esp. on the east coast. These days nobody really cares whether Harvard or Yale has the better rowing team.

Maybe in 50 years Ultimate will be the big sport.

I think if football even exists in 50-100 years, it will be a vastly different game. As different from today's game as the current game is from the game TR banned.

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Re: Is it time to boycott Football?

Postby Paleo2 » Mon Oct 16, 2017 3:36 pm

Correction,

Roosevelt threatened to ban football, which led to a number of reforms making the game somewhat safer.
He didn't actually ban it, as I had misremembered. My apologies.

But in those days, dozens of players were dying every year, with far fewer players.

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Re: Is it time to boycott Football?

Postby Igor » Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:05 pm

Maybe it will be banned - more likely it would just be removed from connection with the schools. However, there are other sports and activities that are highly dangerous, some even more so. The dangers of some are likely just masked by the lower participation rate as compared to football. Free rock climbing, extreme sports, boxing, MMA, rugby, and motor sports come to mind. It may be that some of those are marginally safer than football, and the statistics are no doubt malleable based on number of participants and the amount of time of the sport actually doing dangerous things. But I would not consider any of them to be "safe".

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Re: Is it time to boycott Football?

Postby gargantua » Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:46 pm

I have no interest in boycotting football. However, I am losing interest in it. Even before Aaron Rodgers was injured, the Packers had lost several other key players to injury. We literally never had an opportunity to see the team be able to perform at its best.
And, there are just too many play stoppages that last too long.
So, I think the sport will continue to evolve, whether people choose to boycott or not.

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Re: Is it time to boycott Football?

Postby Roy » Mon Oct 16, 2017 6:26 pm

I have never boycotted anything in my life. Not about to start at age 76.

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Re: Is it time to boycott Football?

Postby Cadfael » Mon Oct 16, 2017 6:52 pm

Except for rational thought and anything that might be construed as progressive, of course.

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Re: Is it time to boycott Football?

Postby Roy » Mon Oct 16, 2017 10:31 pm

Cadfael wrote:Except for rational thought and anything that might be construed as progressive, of course.

Now why would I want to stop socialist from making a cake of themselves.

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Re: Is it time to boycott Football?

Postby Cadfael » Tue Oct 17, 2017 2:00 pm

Roy wrote:
Cadfael wrote:Except for rational thought and anything that might be construed as progressive, of course.

Now why would I want to stop socialist from making a cake of themselves.

Is this thread officially jacked now? Or are we still on topic?

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Re: Is it time to boycott Football?

Postby Roy » Tue Oct 17, 2017 6:15 pm

Your the one to took ot off topic.

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Re: Is it time to boycott Football?

Postby BobbyB » Tue Oct 17, 2017 6:47 pm

Roy wrote:Your the one to took ot off topic.


Good point, Roy.

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Re: Is it time to boycott Football?

Postby gargantua » Tue Oct 17, 2017 6:59 pm

BobbyB wrote:
Roy wrote:Your the one to took ot off topic.


Good point, Roy.

Back on topic. You'll never know until you try. Maybe you can start a movement. But if you feel that strongly about it, what's the harm in trying?

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Re: Is it time to boycott Football?

Postby jonnygothispen » Mon Dec 04, 2017 10:47 pm

To top it off, the NFL obviously (to me) isn't serious about preventing concussions only doing enough to satisfy its critics.

Exhibit A: Gronkowski only gets a 1 game suspension for an egregious hit, a diving elbow to the head, long after the play was over & while the guy is laying down out of bounds.

Exhibit B: last night's Steelers-Bengals game with a guy carted off with a concussion from a deliberate helmet-to-helmet hit that should've been an automatic ejection.

You get a 4 game suspension for a 1st offense of using PEDs (Performance Enhancing Drugs) that only harms the player taking them, but a deliberate hit that can end another players career and is more like a criminal act is taken far more lightly... because it's still money first with the NFL.

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Re: Is it time to boycott Football?

Postby Paleo2 » Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:01 pm

Agreed.

Thing is, with so many good players getting injured, the game is much less watchable.

Nasty hits mean more injuries, and more injuries mean fewer players worth watching.

I find myself watching the Replacement Packers MUCH less. Most weeks I don't see even a minute of the game. Hey, I had leaves to rake Sunday. That was more exciting to me than the Replacement Packers.

Yes, I know it is interesting to see a group of young players learning how to play in the NFL. But NOT as interesting as watching Aaron Rodgers throw to Jordy Nelson.

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Re: Is it time to boycott Football?

Postby doppel » Tue Dec 05, 2017 8:00 pm

I boycott the NFL almost every year. When the Packers are mathematically eliminated from winning the Superbowl, the boycott begins.

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Re: Is it time to boycott Football?

Postby jonnygothispen » Tue Dec 05, 2017 8:05 pm

It seems like the team gets lazy under Rogers expecting the almost inevitable miraculous pass/drive to save them. There's less total team effort as they had in their Super Bowl year. But alas, its Wisconsin: cheese, beer & the Green Bay Packers.


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