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Police involved shootings

Postby you must be joking » Sun Oct 02, 2016 7:24 am

Lately there have been a lot of stories about police involved shootings especially those that involve black men. I have thought that there should be some sort of a way to inform those in the media and in government in exactly how a police involved shooting can go down. Now it appears that a sheriff in South Carolina has done that. http://freebeacon.com/issues/sc-sheriff-puts-journalists-through-simulated-use-of-force-exercises/

I think that perspective is a great thing. It is far too easy for some to judge others unfairly when they themselves have never been in that situation.


Not saying that every cop is a saint and those who do break the law should be severely punished but, perspective should be required before passing judgement.

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Re: Police involved shootings

Postby Cadfael » Sun Oct 02, 2016 11:46 am

you must be joking wrote:Not saying that every cop is a saint

No, of course not. Just most of them. Terrible about all those bad apples who keep shooting children and unarmed people who broke down on the highway, but at least now we know that there's some sort of training involved.

States require more training time to become a barber than a police officer
In North Carolina, It takes 1,528 hours to become a licensed barber. The state's minimum police training requirement is 620 hours. (Charlotte-Mecklenburg police require another 278 hours of training.)

So, some towns it's 620, or less than half. Other towns are more strict. 898 hours, or MORE than half the time it takes to be a barber. 58 percent!

Great! All those well-trained saints, keeping us safe. Mostly saints, anyway.

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Re: Police involved shootings

Postby you must be joking » Mon Oct 03, 2016 6:47 am

Cadfael wrote:
you must be joking wrote:Not saying that every cop is a saint

No, of course not. Just most of them. Terrible about all those bad apples who keep shooting children and unarmed people who broke down on the highway, but at least now we know that there's some sort of training involved.

States require more training time to become a barber than a police officer
In North Carolina, It takes 1,528 hours to become a licensed barber. The state's minimum police training requirement is 620 hours. (Charlotte-Mecklenburg police require another 278 hours of training.)

So, some towns it's 620, or less than half. Other towns are more strict. 898 hours, or MORE than half the time it takes to be a barber. 58 percent!

Great! All those well-trained saints, keeping us safe. Mostly saints, anyway.


Cadfael,

You raise a good point in regards to Police Officer training. Yes, there should be more training in order to be a cop. But, then on the other hand, just look at the number of police shootings in the City of Chicago this year alone. There have been 6 people shot dead by cops in Chicago this year. That may seem like a large amount until you look at the number of people who have died by lethal force in Chicago this year. That number as of today is: 570 people. http://heyjackass.com

Now if you look nationwide at the number of people shot by cops as compared to the number shot by others, it isn't even close. Most young black men are shot by other young black men. There are also a staggeringly higher number of whites who are victims of crimes by blacks than there are blacks who are victims of crimes by whites. Watch this video by Bill Whittle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fL9j_s_eLvU It also seems that police officers are murdered at a rate of 18 times the number of unarmed blacks are by cops.

But, let's be clear; President Obama was going to erase the racist past of this country and heal the racial divides that have troubled us for years. Right!

Even Louis Farrakhan has seen through this bullshit. See: http://www.breitbart.com/video/2016/09/21/farrakhan-to-obama-let-trump-do-want-he-wants-you-failed-inner-city-blacks/

Seems that all Obama has achieved is to make it easier for transgender people to use the bathrooms of the opposite sex. Of course you will never hear this on the MSM. Nope, you won't.

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Re: Police involved shootings

Postby DCB » Mon Oct 03, 2016 8:50 am

you must be joking wrote:Now if you look nationwide at the number of people shot by cops as compared to the number shot by others, it isn't even close.

You're excusing the abuse of authority by state sponsored employees, by comparing them to drug dealers and domestic abusers. You're justifying the actions of the police - whose job is to protect public safety - on the grounds that they're not quite as violent as actual murderers. Kind of a low bar you've set.

you must be joking wrote:But, let's be clear; President Obama was going to erase the racist past of this country and heal the racial divides that have troubled us for years. Right!

No, nobody said that. Except for racists looking for a strawman to justify their own racism.
When in doubt, blame all your problems on the black guy.
Thanks, Obama!

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Re: Police involved shootings

Postby Cadfael » Mon Oct 03, 2016 12:11 pm

Sacramento grappling with video that appears to show police trying to run over mentally ill man they later fatally shot

Patrol car recordings related to the July 11 fatal shooting of Joseph Mann were released by police Sept. 20. But it wasn’t until last week that enhanced audio from one dash camera inside a police cruiser revealed one officer using an expletive and saying, “I’m going to hit him.” The other officer can be heard saying, “Go for it" as the patrol car turns sharply toward Mann.

Mann died less than a minute later after officers chased him a short distance on foot and opened fire, striking him 14 times. Police were pursuing Mann after receiving reports of a man wielding a knife in the neighborhood.

But, you know, elsewhere there was much more violence going on, so we should take that into account.

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Re: Police involved shootings

Postby you must be joking » Tue Oct 04, 2016 7:03 am

DCB wrote:
you must be joking wrote:Now if you look nationwide at the number of people shot by cops as compared to the number shot by others, it isn't even close.

You're excusing the abuse of authority by state sponsored employees, by comparing them to drug dealers and domestic abusers. You're justifying the actions of the police - whose job is to protect public safety - on the grounds that they're not quite as violent as actual murderers. Kind of a low bar you've set.

DCB,

No I just point out the facts.

you must be joking wrote:But, let's be clear; President Obama was going to erase the racist past of this country and heal the racial divides that have troubled us for years. Right!

No, nobody said that. Except for racists looking for a strawman to justify their own racism.
When in doubt, blame all your problems on the black guy.
Thanks, Obama!


That's right, play the racism card when your argument fails.

Good show.

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Re: Police involved shootings

Postby peripat » Tue Oct 04, 2016 8:12 am

It's pretty much a given with racists that, when called out on that racism, they will complain that someone is using the "race card"
That satisfies them and gives everyone else a clear picture of who they are dealing with

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Re: Police involved shootings

Postby Roy » Tue Oct 04, 2016 8:17 am

peripat wrote:It's pretty much a given with racists that, when called out on that racism, they will complain that someone is using the "race card"
That satisfies them and gives everyone else a clear picture of who they are dealing with

Because more often than not it is true. Democrats have always been very racist, with the Civil Rights Act, all they did was switch their racism from blacks to most whites.

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Re: Police involved shootings

Postby DCB » Tue Oct 04, 2016 8:47 am

peripat wrote:It's pretty much a given with racists that, when called out on that racism, they will complain that someone is using the "race card"
That satisfies them and gives everyone else a clear picture of who they are dealing with

I like how ymbj's argument flows seamlessly from "its Obama's fault we still have racism" to "its unfair to play the racism card".
And then of course Roy jumps in, pointing out that voting rights for blacks is basically lynching all the white people.

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Re: Police involved shootings

Postby jman111 » Tue Oct 04, 2016 9:02 am

you must be joking wrote:I think that perspective is a great thing. It is far too easy for some to judge others unfairly when they themselves have never been in that situation.

Right, it's far too easy to judge those who have been shot by police. Far too easy to judge those who are pulled over for DWB. Far too easy to judge those who fear the police because of previous interactions.

Far, far too easy to judge.

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Re: Police involved shootings

Postby Cadfael » Tue Oct 04, 2016 9:36 am

Roy wrote:
peripat wrote:It's pretty much a given with racists that, when called out on that racism, they will complain that someone is using the "race card"
That satisfies them and gives everyone else a clear picture of who they are dealing with

Because more often than not it is true. Democrats have always been very racist, with the Civil Rights Act, all they did was switch their racism from blacks to most whites.

Roy can't resist doing some race baiting every chance he gets.

Then he sits back and yells "You stupid race baiters!"

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Re: Police involved shootings

Postby cloudy » Tue Oct 04, 2016 12:09 pm

Roy wrote: Democrats have always been very racist, with the Civil Rights Act, all they did was switch their racism from blacks to most whites.

The sheer stupidity of this is painful.

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Re: Police involved shootings

Postby fennel » Tue Oct 04, 2016 12:26 pm

Furthermore, the Apollo moon landing was staged, so they could hide the Benghazi e-mails on the stage set.

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Re: Police involved shootings

Postby Henry Vilas » Sun Feb 11, 2018 8:14 am

At least the cops didn't shoot him for having a tail light out.



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