Wisconsin is the most segregated state in America

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Re: Wisconsin is the most segregated state in America

Postby Ned Flanders » Thu Jan 17, 2019 8:43 am

Henry Vilas wrote:Tell us about your zip code, Ned.

http://www.city-data.com/zips/55408.html

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Re: Wisconsin is the most segregated state in America

Postby Shorty » Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:27 am

Lots of young, single people there. Many immigrants and ethnics, also. Ned is a hipster.

"-Zip code 55408 compared to state average
-Black race population percentage above state average.
-Hispanic race population percentage significantly above state average.
-Median age significantly below state average.
-Foreign-born population percentage significantly above state average.
-Renting percentage significantly above state average.
-Length of stay since moving in below state average.
-Number of rooms per house significantly below state average.
-House age above state average.
-Percentage of population with a bachelor's degree or higher above state average."

Here is one near UW:

-Zip code 53705 compared to state average:
-Median house value above state average.
-Black race population percentage below state average.
-Foreign-born population percentage significantly above state average.
-Length of stay since moving in significantly below state average.
-Number of college students above state average.
-Percentage of population with a bachelor's degree or higher significantly above state average.

Read more: http://www.city-data.com/zips/53705.html

Far west side near W Town mall:

Zip code 53717 compared to state average:
-Median house value above state average.
-Hispanic race population percentage below state average.
-Foreign-born population percentage significantly above state average.
-Length of stay since moving in significantly below state average.
-House age significantly below state average.
-Percentage of population with a bachelor's degree or higher significantly above state average.

Read more: http://www.city-data.com/zips/53717.html

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Re: Wisconsin is the most segregated state in America

Postby gozer » Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:43 am

Henry Vilas wrote:No, that would be Republican controlled areas surrounding Milwaukee.


the city itself as well, having traded that ignominious title with chicago at least twice in the last 50 years . . .

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Re: Wisconsin is the most segregated state in America

Postby gozer » Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:45 am

Henry Vilas wrote:This doesn't look good for Wisconsin, especially for its black residents.

Median Income Gap: 48th

Labor Force Participation: 50th

Unemployment Rate Gap: 48th

Poverty Rate Gap: 50th

High School Diploma Gap: 47th

Standardized-Test Scores Gap: 45th

Voter Turnout Gap: 33rd

Infant-Mortality Rate Gap: 39th

Wisconsin also ranks 46th among states that have made the most racial progress, a poor indication that circumstances will soon change.


Full report.


i am guessing that the dual education system uncovered by a centre-right think tank in the middle 1990s hasn't improved that much?

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Re: Wisconsin is the most segregated state in America

Postby HawkHead » Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:57 pm

Madison has a huge racial income and outcomes disparity. No one will disagree with that. At least Madison is trying to bring it to the front and address the issues and the causes and not just sweep it under the rug.

The numbers are certainly depressing.

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Re: Wisconsin is the most segregated state in America

Postby Shorty » Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:59 pm

What or where are the huge racial income and outcomes disparity numbers? Are they worse than other parts of WI or the country?

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Re: Wisconsin is the most segregated state in America

Postby HawkHead » Thu Jan 17, 2019 3:06 pm

Our church sponsored a book read of Trouble I've Seen: Changing the Way the Church Sees Racism by Drew Hart and had him lead a seminar and service at our church in December.

They shared income, education and poverty numbers and they said guess what city this is from. Both sets of data were from Madison. Just depending on the neighborhood that you look at.

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Re: Wisconsin is the most segregated state in America

Postby gozer » Thu Jan 17, 2019 6:15 pm

. . . and here it is -- the badger institute, formerly the wisconsin policy research institute

Dual Education in the Madison Metropolitan School District
Steven Korris - February 1994
https://www.badgerinstitute.org/BI-File ... ol7no2.pdf

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Re: Wisconsin is the most segregated state in America

Postby fennel » Thu Jan 17, 2019 7:25 pm

gozer wrote:. . . and here it is -- the badger institute, formerly the wisconsin policy research institute

Dual Education in the Madison Metropolitan School District
Steven Korris - February 1994
https://www.badgerinstitute.org/BI-File ... ol7no2.pdf

This appears to be an image scan embedded in a PDF. Can someone who has infintite bandwith summarize?

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Re: Wisconsin is the most segregated state in America

Postby Cadfael » Thu Jan 17, 2019 8:05 pm

Haven't read it deeply but it looks like a 1994 report in which the wisconsin policy research institute claims that white children get a better education than non-white children.

I also congratulate myself on having unlimited bandwidth because to me it behaves like a normal pdf.

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Re: Wisconsin is the most segregated state in America

Postby globalwarming » Fri Jan 18, 2019 2:44 pm

Ned Flanders wrote:
Henry Vilas wrote:My zip code includes Bayview and much of south Madison.


Hank pretends he hangs out in the projects. In real life, he's off on one of his cruises or trips to exotic locales.


Yea, he recently traveled to one of the most homogeneous and white places on the planet, Iceland. They have lots and lots of guns there. See, you can have lots of guns when you don't have diversity. It's the combination of the two that causes problems. You don't see Hank bragging about hanging out in Mexico. That would be gauche. They have lots of guns in Mexico too. What's the difference between Iceland and Mexico... Well, it's obvious.

Hank, do you listen to NWA while you're virtue signalling from your safe space?

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Re: Wisconsin is the most segregated state in America

Postby Henry Vilas » Fri Jan 18, 2019 2:55 pm

You have no idea what you are talking about. Iceland doesn't even allow hunting.

I've been to Mexico many more times than the one trip I took to Iceland.

Like Ned, you seem to be a very bitter and petty person.

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Re: Wisconsin is the most segregated state in America

Postby Cadfael » Fri Jan 18, 2019 3:28 pm

globalwarming wrote:Yea, he recently traveled to one of the most homogeneous and white places on the planet, Iceland. They have lots and lots of guns there. See, you can have lots of guns when you don't have diversity. It's the combination of the two that causes problems.


Here's what you have to do to own a gun in Iceland:

[Attend a] seminar covering firearm history, physics, laws, hunting and safety.

Candidates are examined by a doctor who checks they are in good physical and mental health.

They have a meeting with the chief of police, who asks them why they want to own a gun and runs a background check to make sure they have no criminal record.

Then comes the lecture, followed by a written test the next day that they have to pass with a grade of 75 percent or higher.

The final part is a day-long practice session at a shooting range outside the capital. Here, against the backdrop of snow-capped mountains, they blast at bright-orange targets fired into the sky by a machine.

"It feels like somebody cares that you're getting a gun and what you're going to do with the gun," Garðarsson says at his apartment on the outskirts of Reykjavik. "So you're not going to buy a gun to do stupid things."

If they pass, he and his girlfriend will have been studying and preparing for around 13 months.

And that's just for a small rifle or a pump-action shotgun. Owning a handgun, for example, can take around three to four years, and semi-automatic rifles are all but banned.

Yeah, right. It's that "no diversity" thing.

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Re: Wisconsin is the most segregated state in America

Postby globalwarming » Fri Jan 18, 2019 3:59 pm

Homogeneity is Iceland's strength.

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Re: Wisconsin is the most segregated state in America

Postby Henry Vilas » Fri Jan 18, 2019 4:47 pm

So what can you add to the subject of this thread? You use diversity as if it is a curse word. Are you a White Nationalist like Ned?

As for me, I admit I am very liberal. I'm a vet who used to GI Bill to get a couple degrees and four teaching certificates. I've taught (for thirty years) mainly at-risk student in the last two years of high school where many of my students were "diverse." They got a Madison high school diploma and learned skills to get and keep a job.

Are you part of the problem or part of the solution?


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