Freezing

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Freezing

Postby Beaver » Thu Jan 24, 2019 7:22 pm

Three very cold days coming, then snow Monday, followed by four more very cold days. Could be rough.

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Re: Freezing

Postby gargantua » Thu Jan 24, 2019 7:25 pm

I wonder how many water main breaks there will be.

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Re: Freezing

Postby Beaver » Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:41 pm

Permanent and temporary homeless shelters during Madison's brutal cold
https://madison.com/news/local/map-perm ... 3BEF2C94B1

"To deal with the bitter cold, local facilities in Madison that accommodate the homeless are staying open longer and are suspending occupancy limits so more people can be taken care of. Availability may be limited, and it is best to call ahead to verify hours and availability. Public facilities, such as libraries, community centers and senior centers, also are places for people to go to to get out of the frigid weather during normal hours. "

Wind chill of -55 next Weds. Awful!

https://www.channel3000.com/weather/win ... /989492020

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Re: Freezing

Postby gozer » Sat Jan 26, 2019 1:48 am

the mercury thermometer on the back porch reads -30° c/-21° f and it is not too bad out there . . . the dogs thought twice but seem to have folded to the call of nature. that was the thermometer we replaced in 1999 after the temperature fell to somewhere below minus 40 on both scales and froze the mercury, apparently the coldest day of the xx. century everywhere except the airport . . . earlier this evening a number of us were discussing -100° wind chills (fahrenheit, and by the old formula) in the old days in locales with less to obstruct the wind . . . the whole month of february 1936 was the worst, apparently, and for much of north america. so maybe this summer people will wish for days like these as temperatures edge towards 50°c. it will be a dry heat, though . . .

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Re: Freezing

Postby jman111 » Sat Jan 26, 2019 8:42 am

gozer wrote:...and by the old formula...

^this

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Re: Freezing

Postby gozer » Sat Jan 26, 2019 9:06 am

the really old formula was not even in degrees, it was in kilocalories per square metre of body surface area per hour and there was a list of all the things that could happen, like frostbite &c

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Re: Freezing

Postby Dust Mite Rodeo » Sat Jan 26, 2019 11:42 am

The Weather Channel said that the European Model was predicting 12 to 18 inches of snow! Which European Model? Cara Delevigne? Shouldn't she stick to selling clothes?

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Re: Freezing

Postby gozer » Sat Jan 26, 2019 4:52 pm

part of that apparently came from a lower projected ambient temperature than forecasts of ~6 in/15 cm -- let's hope so, making it light and fluffy as opposed to the greasy bowel movement heart-attack shoveling snow and freezing drizzle forecast further to the east . . .

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Re: Freezing

Postby gozer » Sat Jan 26, 2019 4:54 pm

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RECORD EVENT REPORT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MILWAUKEE/SULLIVAN WI
557 AM CST SAT JAN 26 2019
...NEW RECORD LOW MINIMUM TEMPERATURE SET AT MADISON WI...
A RECORD LOW MINIMUM TEMPERATURE OF -23 DEGREES WAS SET AT
MADISON WI THIS MORNING...SATURDAY JANUARY 26 2019. THIS BREAKS THE
PREVIOUS RECORD OF -21 DEGREES SET IN 1963.
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now yer cooking with gas . . . the earlier visitations of the polar vortex seemed to bob back up to above-freezing temperatures in less than a week then repeat and as i recall set few if any records . . .

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Re: Freezing

Postby gargantua » Sat Jan 26, 2019 4:55 pm

Yeah, that fluffy stuff will blow around real nice. I still prefer it to the alternative west, heavy stuff though.

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Re: Freezing

Postby gozer » Sun Jan 27, 2019 12:57 am

though i am still wondering where the wind is in the forecast -- particularly now that the temperature will rise above freezing as near as chicago and the air sucked into it at that point is warmer still it will have something like a 50°c/90°f temperature and dew point gradient across it and all it can muster is 15 mph with gusts to 30? as i pointed out in the global warming thread, baroclinicity is the obligate source of power of such non-tropical systems, and i recall the 2011 blizzard with the 50 mph sustained winds and 74+ mph gusts as having somewhat of a similar set up or even less . . .

i would also point out to people that recently the national weather service's temperature forecasts for madison have been a bit too sanguine, which is what comes of automation and consolidation i guess, as in 8°f or more on night time minima and almost as much during the day; whether that means wednesday will see a serious run at the all time minimum at the airport in madison of -37°f/-38°c from 30. january 1951 remains to be seen . . . it looks like they have cut their estimate of the high for the day from +5 to -12°f already over the past few days. . .

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Re: Freezing

Postby Beaver » Sun Jan 27, 2019 9:31 am

How about using these places as shelters during the cold? There are so many public and private buildings with large spaces that are seldom or not used most nights. All or most of them have heat, restrooms, water and electricity:

-empty Oscar Mayer bldng
-empy Mall stores like Boston and Sears
-Monona Terrace. Most rooms are empty when I go there
-Colisseum and Kohl center
-school gyms
-school theaters like Middleton h.s. Can be locked off from rest of bldng.
-Epic auditorium. How about they donate to the community for a change instead of asking for tax breaks?
-big office lobbies like the glass bank bldng downton. Bank and stores are locked and closed, but use the lobby space
-empty hotel conference rooms

I know these are a stretch for practical reasons, but:
-empty hotel rooms
-empty apartments
-foreclosed homes
-houses for sale where owner has moved out
-homes where owners have left for the Winter

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Re: Freezing

Postby gozer » Sun Jan 27, 2019 11:03 pm

foreclosed homes might be fine but aren't going to be very warm if people already went through there and ripped out the copper wiring and pipes . . .
https://www.theonion.com/biden-scores-8 ... 1819574421

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Re: Freezing

Postby npler » Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:24 am

Wind's in Nebraska and environs it looks like: 55, 60, 70 miles per hour.

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Re: Freezing

Postby Beaver » Mon Jan 28, 2019 4:13 pm

If we had weather casters like these, it wouldn't feel so cold:
http://www.ninjajournalist.com/world/weather-girls-yh/


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