gozer wrote:can a president actually be impeached for things he or she did before becoming president, even if by weeks? even if he is a totally deficient human being?
In case it's not clear, I'm not making the case for impeachment. I'm just pointing out that Trump's agenda is supported by millions of Americans. If you could magically get them all Woke ( as the kids say), that agenda would collapse.
well, yes, that is probably beyond dispute . . . but what i've observed for a while is that the agenda of trump seems to be more an illusion of those on all sides depending on what is happening -- i don't think he has the core values or attention span to have a true agenda in the way that, for example, obama had . . . if someone doesn't like mexicans, they remember the wall, if they are isolationists or centre-right peaceniks or anti-trumpers of the imperialist variety there are comments he made more than once on the campaign trail and what has generally not actually happened since; if they are either warmongers or anti-trumpers of many stripes there are another set of off the cuff remarks and their own forecasts to go by. i'm starting to think it's all a big zero-sum drunken rorschach test for all involved and the best thing to do in the short term would be to get someone in d c to wean trump off the twitter . . .
i would hope that the kind of divisiveness in which he trafficks and has perhaps tricked some opponents into takes too much energy and is self-limiting but u never know, i suppose. he was supposed to get 18 per cent of the vote or something, wasn't he?
the malfeasance of the ku kluxers and neo-nazi clowns really doesn't prove anything, either. i'm sure the alt-right is as amorphous and disunited as ever and as eaten through with people looking out for the cops and every other interested organisation, the occasional agent provocateur, and people who are just plain nuts, along with a small contingent of publicity hogs and star-fuckers -- i just don't see a coherent line of reasoning or shouting from them either, first it is the report of people saying heil trump, then the latest shooter lambastes trump as a globalist and a whole other laundry list of things . . .