Konkel fired from TRC

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Re: Konkel fired from TRC

Postby gargantua » Sun Nov 25, 2018 6:48 pm

Cadfael wrote:But she's fighting back and I've seen things like this end with completely unforeseen and unintended results. If she's been attacked like she says, then her attackers were horribly incompetent. That often doesn't end well for the attackers.

I think that it's not going to end well for anyone. Even if Brenda wins on the merits, it will seriously damage if not destroy the TRC. And I believe her when she says that she doesn't want that to happen. To many people in this town, Brenda Konkel WAS the Tenant Resource Center.

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Re: Konkel fired from TRC

Postby Jattpw » Sun Nov 25, 2018 7:14 pm

Well this whole thing is messy. You have an ED that perhaps has some short comings that you wouldn’t expect in someone who has had the job for 23 years, including not having an established Board orientation process in place in the organization. And you have a Board that doesn’t have expertise in HR matters but recognize that there are some things that aren’t going well. Cash flow may be a challenge but increasing a line of credit doesn’t sound like an organization headed in the right direction. On the other hand you have an ED who has great knowledge has produced good outcomes for the clients.
I would think that if there are any alternative motives involved they more likely have to do with recently terminated employees being disgruntled and having the ear of the Board rather than the Mayors race. In the end, lawyers are getting paid and that is never the best result.

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Re: Konkel fired from TRC

Postby Cadfael » Sun Nov 25, 2018 7:27 pm

gargantua wrote:
Cadfael wrote:But she's fighting back and I've seen things like this end with completely unforeseen and unintended results. If she's been attacked like she says, then her attackers were horribly incompetent. That often doesn't end well for the attackers.

I think that it's not going to end well for anyone. Even if Brenda wins on the merits, it will seriously damage if not destroy the TRC. And I believe her when she says that she doesn't want that to happen. To many people in this town, Brenda Konkel WAS the Tenant Resource Center.

Yes. A mess all around. Which is why I'd like to see photos of those board members so I can recognize them on the street as well as I can Brenda.

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Re: Konkel fired from TRC

Postby Madsci » Sun Nov 25, 2018 8:37 pm

This thread makes me wonder what westsidegal's agenda is !

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Re: Konkel fired from TRC

Postby snoqueen » Sun Nov 25, 2018 9:34 pm

I can't help but think part of the problem here is lack of institutional competence on the part of everybody involved. Best practices seem to have gone out the window. What is the selection process for the board, and the training? What are the accounting and auditing mechanisms? What are the feedback loops that keep the board, leadership, and staff on the same page? People appear to be making up procedures as they go along. Where is the training for backups and successors so we don't have an organization that's basically all about one person?

Maybe the thing to do is start over from scratch. Reading all this, I'm left with little respect for anybody. I don't doubt basic good intentions toward the clients, but how does a chaotic organization do anything but harm efforts to carry out its mission? The clients tend to be in crisis mode due to the circumstances of their lives. You need some steady hands on the wheel so they can be properly served.

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Re: Konkel fired from TRC

Postby Westsidegal » Mon Nov 26, 2018 11:18 pm

I think it is fair to observe that wherever Brenda Konkel goes there is going to be extreme drama.

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Re: Konkel fired from TRC

Postby jonnygothispen » Tue Nov 27, 2018 9:44 am

At the urging of Tenant Resource Center employees and volunteers, the Madison nonprofit's board voted late Monday night to enter into mediation with the executive director it fired last month, Brenda Konkel.


https://madison.com/wsj/news/local/tena ... op-story-1

Brenda...
The “TRC staffer” mentioned in this article is world renowned mediator Howard Bellman who volunteers for TRC in the eviction prevention clinic mediation program. I’m honored and a little star-struck to have him doing the mediation!!

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Re: Konkel fired from TRC

Postby Cadfael » Tue Nov 27, 2018 9:46 am

Westsidegal wrote:I think it is fair to observe that wherever Brenda Konkel goes there is going to be extreme drama.

I think it is also fair to observe that this can be said about more than one prominent Madison citizen.

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Re: Konkel fired from TRC

Postby Westsidegal » Tue Nov 27, 2018 10:31 am

Cadfael wrote:I think it is also fair to observe that this can be said about more than one prominent Madison citizen.


:lol: You got me Cadfael!

Yes, Segway Jeremy Ryan is another....But I get your point.

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Re: Konkel fired from TRC

Postby Westsidegal » Tue Nov 27, 2018 10:34 am

If both the board and Brenda Konkel agree with Howard Bellman as the mediator then they should accept his findings and recommendations.

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Re: Konkel fired from TRC

Postby Jattpw » Tue Nov 27, 2018 5:46 pm

Westsidegal wrote:If both the board and Brenda Konkel agree with Howard Bellman as the mediator then they should accept his findings and recommendations.

I think you are confusing arbitrator with mediator. :shock:

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Re: Konkel fired from TRC

Postby Paleo2 » Tue Nov 27, 2018 9:19 pm

:shh:
Jattpw wrote:
Westsidegal wrote:If both the board and Brenda Konkel agree with Howard Bellman as the mediator then they should accept his findings and recommendations.

I think you are confusing arbitrator with mediator. :shock:


Exactly.

Judge Judy is, legally speaking, an arbitrator.

I once had a girlfriend who was a mediator. Mediators are there to get the parties to agree on a course of action. Arbitration is a private court system. I have been in arbitration a few times, and it is nothing like mediation and a lot like court.

Whenever I was in arbitration, the parties worked out a settlement agreement ourselves without aid of the arbitrator and told the arbitrator. The agreements are legally binding. If no agreement is worked out, the arbitrator makes a ruling which is legally binding.

In mediation the mediator works with the parties to get them to agree. If and only if they agree, the agreement is legally binding. Either party can break off mediation at any time.

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Re: Konkel fired from TRC

Postby gargantua » Tue Nov 27, 2018 11:01 pm

Unless they're looking for a way out, which would be wise, my money is on the board opting out of mediation at some point.
If, on the other hand, they can get some of the changes they need from Brenda, they can save face, and most likely save the TRC itself.

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Re: Konkel fired from TRC

Postby Stu Levitan » Wed Nov 28, 2018 8:45 pm

Howard Bellman is one of the country's top mediators. The parties would be lucky to have him.

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Re: Konkel fired from TRC

Postby snoqueen » Thu Nov 29, 2018 7:06 am

Jattpw wrote:
Westsidegal wrote:If both the board and Brenda Konkel agree with Howard Bellman as the mediator then they should accept his findings and recommendations.

I think you are confusing arbitrator with mediator. :shock:


Maybe westside is one of the people on this clueless Board that seems to have such trouble figuring out what it's doing.


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