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Cheap shots

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Re: Cheap shots

Postby gargantua » Sat Dec 22, 2018 10:02 pm

Yep. Happens every year, 'bout this time.

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Re: Cheap shots

Postby gozer » Sun Dec 23, 2018 6:43 am

i know of several people who pronounce as ith·muth the name of madison's weekly newspaper of the chicago sun-times/new york post/le journal de montréal printing format, and have done so for years -- then again, a lot of them are rednecks, objectivists, trumpsters and wingnuts . . . usually self-described as such . . .

the vukmir picture is pulitzer-calibre material, of course . . .

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Re: Cheap shots

Postby gargantua » Sun Dec 23, 2018 10:40 am

I can understand a person making that kind of mistake when trying to sound out an unfamiliar word. But not getting it right after being corrected a couple of times seems like laziness. It's not like Rachel isn't smart enough to understand that the th is silent once it's pointed out.

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Re: Cheap shots

Postby gozer » Sun Dec 23, 2018 11:23 pm

maybe she was mocking some wingnuts who have her shit or something?

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Re: Cheap shots

Postby gozer » Mon Dec 24, 2018 12:27 am

by the way, not only is there an oregon which is not the state of oregon and readily distinguishable from the other, there are, albiet spelt the same way:

sto-ton, wisconsin
stow-ton, massachussetts
stew-ton, new brunswick
stuff-ton, new york
stawg-ton, ontario

there, is of course, the potential that somewhere the second syllable is stressed, there is a difference in syllable division or even a way devised to divide the word into three syllables, maybe even four . . .

speaking of silent letters, not only is the "y" at the end of such words as the common name of politicians and philosophers with the surname nagy (naj) and many others actually silent. in the middle of words it changes the preceding constant by turning the pair of letters into its own letter used for capitalisation and other purposes: ny is like the spanish ñ and the croatian nj and serbian њ, and gy as in "magyar" modifies the preceding letter into a "j" like in jar, the croatian đ and serbian and other east slavonic ђ . . . the opposite happens with z when it comes after an s: it cancels out the "h" that would otherwise b there, as in the name of the capital bu·da·pesht; the other way around turns into a french "j" like in jacobin . . .

whereas in malagasy, the language of the native people of madagascar, a terminal y, especially following an s as in the first name of the language or the president recently replaced in office by mr rivo rakotovao, dr hery rajaonarimampianina (or the surname of his predecessor, andry rajoelina), a terminal y is in fact not silent but is just a hair less than ¹⁄₂₅ of the length as it is as a vowel in english (in this case, a's as in the a's in "obama") . . . i guess the most common expedient is to open one's lips to say it but just leave them there with no ejection of air for approximately 135 milliseconds . . . the prime minister, since the beginning of this past june, is christian ntsay -- wheras in the 2012 republican primary (even more so than in 2016 it seems) there were in fact several nasty christians according to analysts . . .


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