Gerrymandering

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Gerrymandering

Postby snoqueen » Thu May 15, 2014 9:17 pm

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/won ... s/?hpid=z3

We've discussed gerrymandering on the forum before, and I thought people might like to see a (possible) quantifiable definition of gerrymandering, how specifically it works, and what some of the most preposterous districts in the nation look like (how about "the praying mantis?" Or "Goofy kicking Donald Duck?").

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Re: Gerrymandering

Postby Huckleby » Thu May 15, 2014 9:39 pm

If Dems want to fix this problem, they have to eliminate gerrymandering unilaterally in states they control. Tough step to take, but it's a start.

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Re: Gerrymandering

Postby Donald » Thu May 15, 2014 9:53 pm

In theory, it would be great to have fairly constructed districts. That is best for democracy.

However, the state of the Republican Party is such that our democracy is under the assault by their continual attacks on voting rights and democratic institutions. Playing fair with them is like playing fair with Stalin. Until the Republican Party changes or goes extinct, I'd rather see Democrats gerrymander their states so much that there could be no Republican who wins,

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Re: Gerrymandering

Postby Igor » Thu May 15, 2014 10:04 pm

It is worth noting that some of the districts are required to be gerrymandered by the Voting Rights act.

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Re: Gerrymandering

Postby Henry Vilas » Fri Jul 11, 2014 3:56 pm

A Florida judge stuck down the state's redistricting, call it a "mockery'' for favoring Republicans.

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Re: Gerrymandering

Postby Huckleby » Fri Jul 11, 2014 4:23 pm

The Democrats need to take a principled stand against gerrymandering. Seek bipartisan support. As long as the "everyone does it" excuse is in the air, nothing will change. Democrats complain, but will they act?

The writing is on the wall: the courts are a very weak mechanism to deal with gerrymandering. Legal challenges have very limited effect at end of day. Now that voting rights act is weakened, legal approach is even weaker. Have to work through politics.

Both political parties are interested chiefly in protecting their jobs. They have no incentive to deal with gerrymandering. Republicans benefit a bit more from gerrymandering, so Democrats will have to do most of work of making a change.

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Re: Gerrymandering

Postby Henry Vilas » Fri Jul 11, 2014 4:25 pm

It's up to individual states to create a fair mechanism for redistricting. Like Iowa.

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Re: Gerrymandering

Postby Shorty » Fri Apr 08, 2016 2:20 pm

Federal Judges' Ruling Moves Wisconsin Redistricting Lawsuit Forward
http://wuwm.com/post/federal-judges-rul ... d#stream/0

"A three-judge federal panel on Thursday refused to end a lawsuit challenging Wisconsin's redistricting of state legislative boundaries. So the case, which could ripple nationally, will go to trial from May 24-27 in federal court in Madison."

December Ruling: Wisconsin Gerrymandering Lawsuit Will Continue
http://wuwm.com/post/december-ruling-wi ... e#stream/0

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Re: Gerrymandering

Postby fennel » Fri Apr 08, 2016 2:22 pm

What, again?
They just released the same ruling yesterday.

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Re: Gerrymandering

Postby Shorty » Fri Apr 08, 2016 2:36 pm

My first post was the April 7 ruling. Second post was Dec ruling.

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Re: Gerrymandering

Postby Shorty » Fri Aug 12, 2016 11:26 am

Defeat for Gerrymandering in North Carolina
http://www.electoral-vote.com/#item-10
"If you thought that voter ID laws were the only trick up the North Carolina legislature's sleeve, you were wrong. They are also enthusiastic purveyors of racially-based gerrymandering, in which the mapmakers loop, swoop, twirl, and stand on their heads to get as many black people into a single district as is possible. One of the most notorious is the state's 21st legislative district, which looks more like someone spilled water on the map than it does an actual cohesive geographic area. And now, the 4th Circuit has struck down the map, and told the legislature to go back to the drawing board.

Gerrymandering, which is practiced by both parties but with particular zeal by the GOP, is among the most anti-democratic elements of modern American politics. It is also not widely known or understood among most voters. It is likely that Thursday's decision will result in a district that is only mildly less gerrymandered than the current one, especially since the legislature was given until 2017 to clean up their act. Still, this victory and others are bringing greater visibility to the issue, and at the same time are signaling the increased willingness of courts to become involved. Half a dozen states have already taken steps to address the problem, and most of those (California, Hawaii, New Jersey, Washington) are deep blue. If the Democrats gain control of the Supreme Court (and the rest of the judiciary), we can expect to see the anti-gerrymandering trend continue to gain momentum."


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