"North Dakota, socialist haven"

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"North Dakota, socialist haven"

Postby snoqueen » Mon Jul 15, 2013 8:40 am

That's the headline of this article about how North Dakota, of all Republican places, has its own state bank which is doing very well both for itself and for the people of the state:

http://www.salon.com/2013/03/29/north_d ... k_partner/

Of course, the bigs hate it (and the ideological trolls ought to be all over it) and now it's threatened, supposedly.

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Re: "North Dakota, socialist haven"

Postby npler » Sun Aug 04, 2013 1:41 pm

They also have a state-owned flour mill which makes very good products.

Just like in Wisconsin with the LaFollettes it actually started out in the Republican party, back in the old days when they were a broader tent. LaFollette even made an alliance with the low-tax folks, I suppose one could say the tea party of the day, in advance of the 1914 election for Governor.

Back in the day when North Dakota also was even more Republican than today, the farmers who were being worked over by the railroads and politicians in Saint Paul got together and formed the Non-Partisan League, which did all that and a lot more; they basicially started out as the functional equivalent of a state version of the Minnesota Farmer-Labor Party and the Progressives in Wisconsin. They were founded in 1915 and their first convention was on a day it was fifty below zero, and then the NPL spread all over the Middle West and into Canada as the Cooperative Commonwealth Federation, which was to include folks later to contribute to the reform of the healthcare system up there. Wisconsin had the largest state NPL chapter in absolute numbers for much of the 1920s, I think 55,000 just before the November 1924 election.

Then of course the forces of reaction managed to have the governor recalled in 1921.

The Board of Directors of the NPL actually still exists today within the machinery of the Democratic Party up there; they officially became known as the Democratic-NPL Party after the merger in 1958.

The founder, A.C. Townley, is most famous for this circa 1916 quote:

"If you put a banker, a lawyer, and a party boss in a barrel and roll it down hill, there will always be a son of a bitch on top."

Lemke & Fraizer of farm bill fame in the 1930s were both NPL-backed members of Congress from North Dakota.

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Re: "North Dakota, socialist haven"

Postby Donald » Sun Aug 04, 2013 4:24 pm

Southern neighbor South Dakota was also a socialist paradise. The state ran an insurance business and sold gasoline at state-owned pumps (but didn't produce the fuel). The state owned several grain elevators and flour mills. The state government owned a coal mine at one time. Until 2000, the state owned a very profitable cement company, which was sold off to a Mexican corporation by Governor Janklow, who was responsible for starting up the state's socialist railroad.

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Re: "North Dakota, socialist haven"

Postby Henry Vilas » Mon Aug 05, 2013 10:02 am

During the Great Depression, FDR pushed through a program that gave land grants in Alaska to poor farmers, who came mainly from Minnesota. Republicans in Congress called that communism. The farmers, many who were members of Minnesota's progressive Farm-Labor Party, settled in the Matanuska-Susitna Valley. Sarah Pallin is from there. Thus her Minnesota accent (but not her politics). You betcha.

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Re: "North Dakota, socialist haven"

Postby green union terrace chair » Mon Aug 05, 2013 11:33 am

npler wrote:Back in the day when North Dakota also was even more Republican than today, the farmers who were being worked over by the railroads and politicians in Saint Paul got together and formed the Non-Partisan League ...

Is this the origin of your screenname?

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Re: "North Dakota, socialist haven"

Postby npler » Tue Aug 06, 2013 3:41 am

green union terrace chair wrote:
npler wrote:Back in the day when North Dakota also was even more Republican than today, the farmers who were being worked over by the railroads and politicians in Saint Paul got together and formed the Non-Partisan League ...

Is this the origin of your screenname?


Yes, that is correct. Not derived from "nipple" as one tweaker here once asked/opined, yes.

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Re: "North Dakota, socialist haven"

Postby rabble » Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:27 am

I wish I could read that name and not see "nippler" but that's how it is and there doesn't appear to be anything I can do about it.


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