jjoyce wrote:2. Where did I say that it's only bikers who need to be gracious? Where does that even enter into the discussion? My issue is with people of all stripes who practically want to adjudicate a small claim every time there's a confrontation at an intersection. I'm firm in my belief that this is the result of aggro anti- and pro-bike people engaging in these debates for sport over the years.
The first part. Seriously Jason? It's when you called the bike rider "lame", "angry" and "bitter" for not just waving and smiling when the car driver is in the wrong. I admit I put the "be gracious" part in your mouth. But come on.
The second part I've got a big ol' hell yes for you. Totally agree.
That's why my first post was Stop if you're supposed to, don't if you're not.
It really is that simple. If everyone behaves in a fairly predictable manner we'd have a whole lot less of these situations. No more need to guess if old guy is gonna dart out in front of you on his bike. And no need to guess if old guy in his car is really gonna stop when they do the slow roll up on the crosswalk.
I know in the real world that's just never gonna happen. And I totally get why you're careful. But being overly cautious is to me just as bad as being overly reckless. Both just add to the unpredictability of the situation and that's what adds to the danger.
jjoyce wrote:Also, we've all had to deal with donkeys who'd rather have an argument than simply roll on by and continue with their days.
To me that includes the passive aggressive car drivers doing the mad hand wave and yelling at me when I refuse to play along.
As you say, simply roll on by.