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Re: The gun thread

Postby rabble » Wed Jan 16, 2013 2:50 pm

Oh good lord.

Sandy Hook Hero Harassed by Burgeoning Truther Movement

When Gene Rosen found six small children crying at the end of his Newtown, Conn. driveway on Dec. 14, he opened his home to them. He got stuffed animals and juice and listened to their horrific stories, stories of a man with guns, and of their first-grade teacher, Mrs. Soto.

“We can’t go back to school,” one little boy said. “Our teacher is dead.”

Rosen, 69, sheltered these kids, who somehow escaped the fate of 20 of their peers in the tragic Sandy Hook school shooting, and called their distressed parents. Now, he’s being harassed by conspiracy theorists who claim the Sandy Hook shooting never happened.

The Sandy Hook Truther Movement, like so many conspiracy theories before it, weaves trivial details together to create a thin — but for some, believable — tale of fraud perpetrated to nefarious ends by the U.S. government. There’s Emilie Parker, a 6-year-old girl killed in the shooting, who Sandy Hook Truthers insist never died. Or Dawn Hochsprung, Sandy Hook’s principal, who was gunned down by shooter Adam Lanza, but was later apparently quoted in the Newtown Bee.

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Re: The gun thread

Postby fisticuffs » Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:04 pm

Here's the list of executive actions. I don't see "confiscate guns" or "destroy the 2nd amendment" listed. That doesn't stop the right wing media from selling it that way however.
1. Issue a presidential memorandum to require federal agencies to make relevant data available to the federal background check system.

2. Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system.

3. Improve incentives for states to share information with the background check system.

4. Direct the attorney general to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks.

5. Propose rule making to give law enforcement the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun.

6. Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers.

7. Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign.

8. Review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product Safety Commission).

9. Issue a presidential memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations.

10. Release a DOJ report analyzing information on lost and stolen guns and make it widely available to law enforcement.

11. Nominate an ATF director.

12. Provide law enforcement, first responders, and school officials with proper training for active shooter situations.

13. Maximize enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun crime.

14. Issue a presidential memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to research the causes and prevention of gun violence.

15. Direct the attorney general to issue a report on the availability and most effective use of new gun safety technologies and challenge the private sector to develop innovative technologies.

16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.

17. Release a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement authorities.

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Re: The gun thread

Postby wack wack » Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:20 pm

It sounds like we'll eventually have actual data from research and crime reporting. That's probably the scariest thing of all to the NRA.

I've wondered about #15 for awhile:
15. Direct the attorney general to issue a report on the availability and most effective use of new gun safety technologies and challenge the private sector to develop innovative technologies.


The auto industry is required or incentivized to meet standards and innovate for things like safety and emissions, right? Why not the gun industry?

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Re: The gun thread

Postby Henry Vilas » Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:41 pm

Crazy is the new normal. U.S. Representative Stev Stockman (R-Texas)

Back during the Branch Davidians disaster, he accused Carter of orchestrating the raid in order to tighten gun laws. He was considered wacko back then. Now he says the same thing about Obama and the massacre of kindergartners, and his thinking is considered mainstream by fellow right wing extremists in Congress.

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Re: The gun thread

Postby snoqueen » Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:45 pm

headline wrote:Republicans Accuse Obama Of Using Position As President To Lead Country


umm... that's his job, isn't it?

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Re: The gun thread

Postby Detritus » Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:46 pm

fisticuffs wrote:Here's the list of executive actions. I don't see "confiscate guns" or "destroy the 2nd amendment" listed. That doesn't stop the right wing media from selling it that way however.

Most of them struck me as rather pointless--sending letters, training people who are already trained, making a nomination that will never be allowed out of committee...most of them will have no impact on anything, much less touch the second amendment.

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Re: The gun thread

Postby fisticuffs » Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:48 pm

most of them will have no impact on anything, much less touch the second amendment.


Exactly, Tyranny!!!!!

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Re: The gun thread

Postby Ned Flanders » Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:59 pm

Henry Vilas wrote:Crazy is the new normal. U.S. Representative Stev Stockman (R-Texas)

Back during the Branch Davidians disaster, he accused Carter of orchestrating the raid in order to tighten gun laws. He was considered wacko back then. Now he says the same thing about Obama and the massacre of kindergartners, and his thinking is considered mainstream by fellow right wing extremists in Congress.

Carter?
Ah, weren't Klinton and Tranny Reno responsible for Waco?

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Re: The gun thread

Postby Stebben84 » Wed Jan 16, 2013 4:03 pm

Ned Flanders wrote:Klinton and Tranny Reno


Now we're back to cutesy names. Flanders must mean business.

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Re: The gun thread

Postby Ned Flanders » Wed Jan 16, 2013 4:06 pm

Stebben84 wrote:
Ned Flanders wrote:Klinton and Tranny Reno


Now we're back to cutesy names. Flanders must mean business.


And to think Hank claims he was a teacher. Must be on the cough syrup and PBR again.

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Re: The gun thread

Postby Henry Vilas » Wed Jan 16, 2013 4:12 pm

Yes Ned, I miswrote. Shoulda said Clinton. Now go back to talking about your favorite subject, penises.

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Re: The gun thread

Postby Ned Flanders » Wed Jan 16, 2013 4:19 pm

Henry Vilas wrote:Yes Ned, I miswrote. Shoulda said Clinton. Now go back to talking about your favorite subject, penises.

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Re: The gun thread

Postby Marvell » Wed Jan 16, 2013 4:20 pm

Meat paddles?

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Re: The gun thread

Postby Ned Flanders » Wed Jan 16, 2013 4:21 pm

Marvell wrote:Meat paddles?

Now, leave your gal's thighs out of this.

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Re: The gun thread

Postby Henry Vilas » Wed Jan 16, 2013 4:31 pm

Ned, let's get back to the gun issue. Do you just spout the NRA talking points, or are there any reasonable (by your definition) regulations on firearms that you would support?


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