rrnate wrote:Jason raises a good point though, which is that both of these candidates are a bit more "outsidery" and the deck is stacked against them
First off, the minute I saw his name I recognized who he was. There is also this, from his website:
Thank you to all 19,920 of you who voted for Arthur!
Sure, he may be unconventional, but far from an outsider. Also, we keep speaking of this other candidate, yet there were no quotes from him in the article. Did he run into the same situation as well? While we're on the subject of "outsidery" do you know Dennis Denure?viewtopic.php?t=46021
I have met him and he is waaaay more outsidery than Arthur, yet he made his way onto the ballot.
Also, take a look at the list of candidates:https://www.cityofmadison.com/election/ ... ng2013.cfm
Tell me there are not "outsiders" in there. I would really like the Isthmus to follow up on this story, interview the new challengers, and ask if the process to get on the ballet was too difficult.
rrnate wrote:You're saying that a baseline skill of an Alder should be having the skills to seek out the proper forms.
If that's the impression I made, I apologize. That's not what I meant. I believe Arthur made a mistake and is looking for a scapegoat. The Isthmus picked up on it and published a story without anything to back up his story. They even printed this(from the article)
(The city clerk currently lists "statement of economic interests" on its online guide for candidate filings, but Isthmus does not know what specifically Kohl-Riggs was looking at or whether the website has been since changed.)
rrnate wrote:there are a lot of hoops to jump through without excellent, clear instructions.
There may be hoops, but can it get any more clear than this?https://www.cityofmadison.com/election/ ... mation.pdf
I do believe a few hoops are necessary. That economic interest form is about conflict of interest. I would really like to think and hope that people have the best interest of the city in mind.
I have no problem with Arthur filing a complaint and hopefully he wins and gets on the ballot. Until that point, I've yet to see any proof that there was some sort of conspiracy by the "establishment" as Jason suggested. I think the biggest reason we don't get more and better candidates is that the job sucks. It's considered part time, but how the hell can anyone hold down a full time job and be an alder. That is no easy task and takes commitment. Christ, I was on the board at WYOU for a couple years and that sucked the life out of me. I went to city committee meetings and council meetings, and they were awful. I couldn't imagine being an alder. There are a lot of intelligent and thoughtful people who would make great alders but just can't swing it.