Heimness says Paulie grabbed for his gun. That's a rock solid alibi, if true. However, even if Paulie had "grabbed" for his gun, which we now know isn't true, they separated, another officer had just pulled up, and Paulie was not lunging at Heimness. Paulie's a skinny dude. Heimness successfully separated likely because Paulie was so drunk and not much of a brawler to begin with. Also, 5 to 6 feet is a decent distance. Heimness has made poor decisions in similar situations.Francis Di Domizio wrote:jonnygothispen wrote:Mr. Heenan hadn't pulled out any weapons, and it's unlikely he was "reaching" for one since he didn't have any.
He had reached for one, it just happened to be in officer Heimness's hands at the time.jonnygothispen wrote:But in ALL fairness, Mr. Heimness had other options.
Pure conjecture on your part with no basis any similar experience.jonnygothispen wrote:Mr. Heimness could have: remained disengaged until he had help in wrestling Paulie down, or stepped back, and whipped out the pepper spray, or shot him in non fatal areas
Disengaging takes two people, if Mr. Heenan continues to advance on Officer Heimness it's tough to disengage. 5 feet is not nearly enough space to safely secure a firearm (especially when someone is trying to take it away), and pull out pepper spray. Pepper spray can also easily end up effecting the wielder as well at close ranges. Furthermore aiming at and hitting a "non-lethal" location of the leg when the target leg is moving is not quite as simple as takingjonnygothispen wrote:pot shots at a beat up Yugo 25 years ago.
One of the important theories of use of a firearm is knowing what is behind your target and not causing rounds to go ricocheting off in unknown directions. Your are far more likely to hit when you aim for the center of mass and far less likely to have rounds go somewhere unintended. It's horrible that Mr. Heenan is dead, but it would be far more horrible if his behavior had lead to anyone else dying (including Officer Heimness).jonnygothispen wrote:He can also say whatever he wants about it. No one but him knows how accurate that really is either.
You keep making this claim, seeming to forget that there was a witness there who also gave a statement.jonnygothispen wrote:any time something like this happens it should be closely scrutinized
And it always is. After which armchair cops always come out and say why the cop was wrong and how they would have handled a situation they have no experience or training in so much better.
I based what I said on what we knew at the time. I also based it on my own experiences in situations like this. You based your opinion on your own conjecture, and false statements.
RE: Heimness originally said "He grabbed for my gun." That changed in at least one later story to, "He grabbed my arm" w/o the "grabbed my gun." I wonder, why mention "grabbed my arm" when "grabbed my gun" will do unless he actually grabbed the arm with the gun, and Heimness reacted out of fear or aggression? Which did he grab, the arm or the gun? Or neither since he was flailing and swatting at Heimness like completely wasted drunks often do?
Madison is a better place because of Bill Lueders.