johnfajardohenry wrote:I've never understood why people call Orwell a Socialist.
People call him that because he identified himself that way. Although his own definition of socialism was very broad - "liberty and justice" - and he was extremely critical of several other strains of socialism of the interwar decades - the "bohemian" libertines, literary utopians, and the doctrinaire Marxists, in particular (for more I suggest reading Orwell's Road to Wigan Pier
Regarding the rest of this insipid hijack of what started out as a thoughtful thread: JHenry, Meade, and in his semi-literate way, Cornbread are partaking in a common right-wing trope - trying to re-define the Nazis as "socialists." In so doing they hope to associate all authoritarian/totalitarian regimes with the left.
Of course, the Nazis (and Mussolini, Franco, etc) were fascists, not socialists. Fascists, being an extreme, authoritarian RIGHT WING ideology despised socialists (and vice versa). Anyone with even a cursory understanding of early 20thc history understands this. But our local neighborhood trolls are too interested in grinding their ideological axes to bother with anything so mundane as "understanding" history.
With that settled, let's get this thread back to discussing gay chicken sandwiches, etc.