dave esmond wrote:For me to be a good neighbor I need to pay more attention in areas where the Amish might be so I don't run into a large horse drawn vehicle that is difficult but not impossible to see after dark. Just like I have to pay attention to all the other much smaller unlit and unmarked stuff that might be in the road.
For the Amish to be a good neighbor they'd have to violate a core belief that they hold central to their way of life. A belief they're willing to go to jail to not violate.
What core beliefs are you willing to give up to be a good neighbor? Any? Then cut the small number of Amish out after dark a little slack and slow down and watch for them in the small area they travel.
It's not a big enough deal for me to ask someone to violate a core belief. Maybe if they were everywhere on every road. But they're not.
Personally I've got a lot of respect for people who have beliefs they're willing to go to jail to defend even if I don't agree with them.
I clearly disagree with you.
I don't care about their core beliefs in this case. I don't even feel that they're applicable. They're already making use of modern conveniences for their own benefit. They certainly aren't subsidizing said conveniences with hay tax, either. If they're going to enjoy the benefit of said conveniences for free, they can suck it up just a little bit more and make themselves visible.
You keep making the implication that someone wanting a buggy to be more visible automatically implies some sort of flaw on the person asking. That they're obviously driving recklessly and being a "bad neighbor" and should really just be paying attention instead of texting, checking facebook, car-dancing and making frappucinos in their dash-mounted espresso machine.
The "small area they travel" includes hundreds of miles of roads out in the western portion of this state. Hell, I've parked next to buggies at the Walgreens in Viroqua. The speed limits throughout that area are 45-55mph outside of the town.
And you know what? It's generally not too big of a deal because your headlights will light up that orange SMV triangle from pretty far away - this gives you ample opportunity to slow down, give them wide berth and wave as you pass. (They'll always wave back. They're friendly people.)
I've encountered plenty of slow-moving farm equipment, loose livestock, Amish children in dark clothing walking on roads after dusk, moron cyclists that are too good for lights and more deer than I could ever count. I've never hit them because I've been paying attention. I still don't need the sudden adrenaline rush that coming upon any of those things by surprise entails.
I don't take issue with the Amish in general. I take issue with this group that refuses to take simple steps to improve the safety of themselves and people whose roads they're using, and I take issue with you repeatedly implying that this implies a flaw on my part.