PurplePenquin wrote:naked pagan wrote:
Lets look at tabacco...its a plant that grows and supports certain sectors of our economy, but it produces a dangerous addictive drug that is responsible for the painful deaths of millions of people.
This is not to say marijuana is more or less safer than tabacoo, Im just saying the 'its all natural so its safe' line is bullshit.
What's bullshit is trying to claim I said "its all natural so its safe", 'cause I never said that. I'm merely pointing out that it's an all natural-plant, and if someone wants to see another person locked up for having an all-natural plant then they must be insane, ignorant and/or evil.
For the record, tobacco isn't responsible for the deaths of anybody...last I checked, people have to actually pick up a cig and smoke it in order for it to cause any harm. That plant doesn't just sit there quietly waiting to kill people.
However, you raise an interesting point...Do you think we should ban tobacco and treat smokers like we've been treating tokers?
there is a precedent from which we can gather insight:
it has been done before in the united states -- we are talking about state bans on tobacco that were in the same chronological span as prohibition, the harrison narcotic control & tax act of 1914 and its forerunners like the 1909 ban on smoking-opium, and the outlawing of diamorphine (h, horse, scag, gear, brownstone, smack) in 1924.
for full disclosure, my opinion on tobacco is as follows:
pharmacologically, i can't think of another substance -- even jimsonweed's cocktail of atropine and hyoscine and allied substances -- which is as toxic as tobacco and which addicts people when generating as little real chemical pleasure. m.j., coca, opium, benzodiazepines, synthetic opiates like methadone, dextromoramide, ketobemidone, and pethidine, there's no comparison. not even barbiturates and amphetamines, the very model of toxic pharmaceuticals, really compare.
i was a chemical-effect smoker on and off for years for the superior stimulation to caffeine, but just decided to quit one morning because i knew exactly what it was doing to every organ in my body and damn the withdrawal. in my opinion, for those having more trouble with it, a two-week course of extended-release morphine would smooth out nicotine withdrawal the best with the lowest recidivism rate. europeans and australians with problems with nausea from the big m could substitute dextromoramide.
seems that they felt the tobacco bans were as effective as was prohibition. the history of narcotics is so much more obscured with propaganda and bull-shit that it deserves a separate article which i may do later today or next week.