Just to keep this current for any potential suckers thinking of buying a stand-alone player:
Slick Willy wrote:TAsunder wrote:None of those players (except the PS3) are worth half that price, IMO. The PS3 is the only blu-ray player that is a reasonable value. It has quick boot times, and has a wealth of non-blu-ray features. $400 is simply too much to pay for a marginal improvement over the cheaper players, which themselves are too expensive.
Do you know what the boot times are on those other three players I mentioned or what any of their features are? Have you used any of them?
The Sony, Samsung, and Sharp Blu-Ray players have painfully slow boot up times and are not even Profile 1.1 compliant. The time before you can actually watch a disk is at least 2 minutes from my experience. My brother purchased the Sony and I convinced him to take it back after he turned it on and then died of old age waiting it to be ready to play. Apparently any "java" enabled disc is significantly worse with them, but we didn't have one to test.
We went back, spent about an hour playing with the other $400 players and they were all highly deficient compared to the PS3.
The PS3 on the other hand was ready in under a minute, and even throwing aside the games available for it, it is a fully featured media center and will very soon be the only Blu-Ray 2.0 profile player that doesn't require a mortgage.
The Panasonic was good, but it was $100 more than the PS3, out of stock, and did not have any of the multimedia features of the PS3.
I agree that the PS3 may offer the most bang for your buck, but you seem to be forgetting that DVD players started out at around $1000 just like Blu-ray players and went down in price at the same rate that Blu-ray players have been. Granted, the difference in quality between DVD and VHS is bigger than the difference between DVD and Blue-ray. When you go from a 4.7GB single layer DVD to a 25GB single layer Blu-ray disc, though, that's a pretty big difference in storage capacity.
Newer technologies start out expensive and aren't usually worth the price for the average consumer, but they eventually go down in price, and soon everybody has one. That's the name of the game, and I don't have to tell you that. If you're not ready to buy yet, then join most people for now, but I don't think that means the price of Blu-ray players are way out of whack, relatively speaking.
The entire point I'm making here is that stand-alone blu-ray players are a complete rip-off at this time, and only a complete moron would pay $400 for a blu-ray player that's SIGNIFICANTLY WORSE than the playstation 3 for the same price. If you want a blu-ray player for under $500, get a PS3 or wait. Those are the only two reasonable options. Don't be a dipshit who buys a blu ray 1.0 profile player that takes 3 minutes to boot when you could have gotten a PS3 for the SAME PRICE and had a 2.0 player that takes < 1 minute to play a movie, can play great video games, and servers as a media center.
I don't care how much DVD players used to cost, or laserdisc. I'm talking about blu-ray players as they currently exist. Unless you want to spend over $500 on a player, get a PS3 or nothing. Anything else marks you as a grade A sucker.