Kenneth Burns wrote:Out of date except she writes a column three times a week!
I meant mine Ken.
Manners and all that.
Swing and a miss for me.
...it pisses me off to no end when a driver, especially on a multi-lane street, stops and waves me into traffic when I'm waiting to cross. Not only is that illegal (in spite of the fact that the cops do it here constantly), it's incredibly stupid and dangerous. It's not courteous, it's sanctimonious, which leads to a lot of conflict with those drivers who insist on being "helpful" even after being waved past, many of whom resort to swearing and insults to those they were trying to "help" just a few seconds before. That's how you know it's really all about them and has nothing to do with ped safety.
snoqueen wrote:We who just want to get where we're going safely and without hurting anybody else need to back way off. I mean mentally, not behaviorally. This is going to take self-discipline, but the alternative is endless stupid and dangerous road disagreements.
Ducatista wrote:I like to be irritated, and even I got positive reinforcement from my very first smile-wave-&-proceed interaction. No fuss, no stress, no delay. No sweat.
Jademan7 wrote:I couldn't imaging driving up to an intersection where the side road has a stop sign and stopping in the middle of the road to let a car at a stop sign go through.
wack wack wrote:Jademan7 wrote:I couldn't imaging driving up to an intersection where the side road has a stop sign and stopping in the middle of the road to let a car at a stop sign go through.
How about when the car isn't stopped, but is approaching from your right or left and it is clear that they are not going to stop at the sign?
It's happened several times with cars and an innumerable number of times with bikes in my 10 years in Madison.
Frustrating, perhaps, but to suggest that drivers are silly or stupid for being cautious is not reasonable.
dave esmond wrote:Except we're talking about a situation where the bike rider or car HAS stopped...
In the three cases in my last two rides I was fully stopped with my feet down. Not doing a slow roll. Not doing a track stand. STOPPED. There was nothing to be cautious about...I was stopped. So there we sat. Neither of us moving. That's stupid.
wack wack wrote:I understand your point; I hope you can understand my suspicion even of those with both feet on the ground.
dave esmond wrote:wack wack wrote:I understand your point; I hope you can understand my suspicion even of those with both feet on the ground.
Honestly? No I don't understand it. By the time most people could get moving from that position you'll be past them. But I've come to except it.
wack wack wrote:If my suspicion is unwarranted then I will lose it.
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