Ducatista wrote:On a related note, to all you bikers who self-righteously yell at cars trying to pull out of the Machinery Row parking lot: if you're headed west on the bike path, YOU have a yield sign. So slow down and shut the fuck up. That intersection is a smelly mess, no need to add your stinky sanctimony to the pile. I'm always on foot at that intersection, not in a car, and you still bug the crap out of me.
I know what you mean about that Machinery Row parking lot exit.
One day last year I was trying to leave that parking lot in my car during rush hour. You can only turn right into Willy St, but you have to watch for traffic on your left coming from 3 different streets: John Nolen Dr, Wilson St, and Blair St.
So I head for the exit slowly. I get about one and a half car lengths from the sidewalk. I stop and look to my left, nobody on the sidewalk but traffic in the street is busy. I look right, nobody on the sidewalk.
So I slowly inch my way to the sidewalk looking left to assess the sidewalk and street traffic. All clear for both. I see something out of the corner of my eye on the right. I stop and look right, and I see a bike coming up the sidewalk. Then I heard an unexpected thump on the back of my car.
I put the car in park, get out and see a runner on my left, heading down the path towards John Nolen Dr, yelling at me. He must have come up from my right, got pissed that I was temporarily blocking the sidewalk, and then ran behind my car and banged it with his hand. Of course he had to yell obscenities at me too.
Now what in the hell was that? It wasn't like I raced to the exit without even attempting to be careful. I'm a runner and I've been biking in Madison since before we even had bike paths. However, when I'm running or biking, I do realize that cars may not always see me or be expecting to see me. I usually avoid cars when I can, and in situations like that I assume the driver is too busy monitoring non-stopping vehicle traffic to worry about blocking the path for somebody jogging for exercise.
As for the Southwest bike path, I've had people stop cars for me at Odana and Glenway when I'm biking. I never assume they will stop, and I've probably taken them up on the favor more than I've passed them on. But I can see your point about the safety issue, chance. In the future I will wave them on.