**BREAKING HARD**: "Missing" Text Messages Found

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Re: **BREAKING HARD**: "Missing" Text Messages Found

Postby Ned Flanders » Sat Jan 27, 2018 1:23 pm

david cohen wrote:I suggest ALL Forons place "The Gotch" on ignore ASAP. This guy was the scourge of Madison.com, so much so that they terminated their online comments to news/opinion articles. Believe me, if he exists here, the conversation will be far worse for the wear.

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Re: **BREAKING HARD**: "Missing" Text Messages Found

Postby Paleo2 » Sat Jan 27, 2018 1:57 pm

I think Ned is triggered

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Re: **BREAKING HARD**: "Missing" Text Messages Found

Postby Ned Flounders » Sat Jan 27, 2018 2:50 pm

Flanders is desperately trying to keep your attention anywhere except on the fact that the Finance Chair of the Republican National Committee was just outed as another Harvey Weinstein.

We could now list literally dozens of tweets, comments, and posts from high-ranking Republicans demanding that various Democrats return past donations from Weinstein.

Not a peep about Steve Wynn, though. As usual, IOKIYAR.

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Re: **BREAKING HARD**: "Missing" Text Messages Found

Postby Cornelius Gotchberg » Sat Jan 27, 2018 5:05 pm

@Ned Flounders;

The Clintonists Crime Family, I mean the Clintonista Foundation has refused to return its Weinstein donations.

http://www.newsweek.com/hillary-clinton ... ted-687074

My guess? They spent them paying for Chelsea's wedding.

One thing's for sure, they sure didn't use them to help out the Haiti Relief effort, am I right?

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/4 ... foundation

Anywho, I'm not a Republican..or a progressive, or a liberal, or a democrat, or a Proglibocrat (the Lefty Holy Grail).

And this Wynn thing just broke.

That said, fair's fair; Righty feet should be held to the fire to return donations from scum bags.

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Re: **BREAKING HARD**: "Missing" Text Messages Found

Postby gargantua » Sat Jan 27, 2018 5:09 pm

This ignore feature is cool. First time I've ever used it.

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Re: **BREAKING HARD**: "Missing" Text Messages Found

Postby gozer » Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:48 am

wasn't wynn a democrat or at least a b h o supporter as recently as 2014? i guess testing the wind is not the only thing he has been doing with his finger. what a megalomaniac: a permit from the state of nevada to steal wasn't enough for him . . .

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Re: **BREAKING HARD**: "Missing" Text Messages Found

Postby Ned Flounders » Sun Jan 28, 2018 5:26 am

gargantua wrote:This ignore feature is cool. First time I've ever used it.

I agree in general, but in this case the Forum's latest Moron-of-the-Month has posted something so exceptionally stupid that I'm going to respond, purely for entertainment value. If you're not in the mood please stop reading.

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Despite anything that the crackpot, convicted felon, and pathological liar Dinesh D'Souza may say, the Clinton Foundation is in fact a widely respected charity that receives the top rating from the nation's charity watchdog on both its dimensions (finances and accountability/transparency).

Weinstein's donations to the CF paid for HIV/AIDS treatment, anti-malarial drugs, vaccines, and contraceptives in developing countries in Asia, Africa, and Latin America. Plus lots of other equally good causes in the US and elsewhere.

So when our newest Village Idiot suggests that the CF should return Weinstein's donation, he is actually suggesting that they should take $250,000 from programs assisting HIV/AIDS and malaria victims in impoverished countries and give it to a wealthy sex predator.

It is remarkable how Clinton Derangement Syndrome can make someone so stupid.

I don't think the Republican Party should return Steve Wynn's donations. I think they should give them to a genuine charity (like, for instance, the top-rated Clinton Foundation) and then unambiguously cut all ties with Steve Wynn and apologize to his victims.

Let's start with the Republican Governors Association. Wynn gave them millions. What are they going to do now?

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Re: **BREAKING HARD**: "Missing" Text Messages Found

Postby Cornelius Gotchberg » Sun Jan 28, 2018 8:37 am

@Ned Flounders;

The Clintonists Crime Syndicate is "a widely respected charity"?

I beg you to get some therapy! While the shrink you choose picks out the finest schools in the land to send their children based on the ongoing fees they'll collect trying to unwind your breathtaking inanity, give a read to what Haiti is saying about the Clintonistas.

Haiti Liberte editor Kim Ives: "A lot of Haitians are not big fans of the Clintons, that's for sure. The fact the Clintons kind of took over things after the earthquake and did a pretty poor job of it translates to why the Haitians have a pretty dim view of them."


A US Government Accountability Office report discovered no hint of wrongdoing, but concluded the IHRC's (Interim Haiti Relief Commission) decisions were "not necessarily aligned with Haitian priorities".

And howse about Hillarity monkeying with Haiti's minimum wage? Lefty politifact.com claims it's "half-true, which means a fact-based reality would have it as "true!"

http://www.politifact.com/global-news/s ... p-suppres/

Or her brother acquiring a very difficult to obtain gold mining permit.

Wait a minute; isn't mining EVIL according to idiot Lefties (forgive the redundancy)

Bias makes you stupid, hyper partisan bias makes you stupid on steroids.

If yer unable to connect the dots, yer hyper partisan biased.

Congratulations notwithstanding, you've earned yourself a "Gotchie!"

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Re: **BREAKING HARD**: "Missing" Text Messages Found

Postby Cornelius Gotchberg » Sun Jan 28, 2018 8:55 am

Another stunning...um...assessment of the Clintonista Crime Syndicate's Excellent Haiti Adventure:

“ 'The incompetence is mind numbing,[...]The UN people I encountered were frequently out of touch … anachronistic in their thinking at best and arrogant and incompetent at worst. There is NO accountability in the UN system or international humanitarian system.'

''The weak Haitian government, which had lost buildings and staff in the disaster, had something of a plan, she noted. Yet because it had failed to articulate its wishes quickly enough, foreigners (read: Clintonista Criminal Rent-seekers) rushed forward with a 'proliferation of ad hoc efforts by the UN and INGOs [international nongovernmental organizations] to ‘help,’ some of which have helped … some of which have hurt … and some which have not happened at all.' ”

Who is *she*? Chelsea Clinton; perhaps you've heard the name?

Et tu, Chelsea?


https://www.politico.com/magazine/story ... ail-213110

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Re: **BREAKING HARD**: "Missing" Text Messages Found

Postby gozer » Sun Jan 28, 2018 11:05 am

“ 'The incompetence is mind numbing,[...]The UN people I encountered were frequently out of touch … anachronistic in their thinking at best and arrogant and incompetent at worst. There is NO accountability in the UN system or international humanitarian system.'

just like srebrenica . . .
fuck the united nations
except for the international narcotics control board
no, especially them -- fuck them in the arse with a sea urchin (echinoidea spp leske 1778) . . .

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Re: **BREAKING HARD**: "Missing" Text Messages Found

Postby gozer » Wed Jan 31, 2018 6:14 am

david cohen wrote:I suggest ALL Forons place "The Gotch" on ignore ASAP. This guy was the scourge of Madison.com, so much so that they terminated their online comments to news/opinion articles. Believe me, if he exists here, the conversation will be far worse for the wear.


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i used the ignore here and the filter for author on the reader i use for i d p f for the first time this week and feel sort of conflicted . . . the whole purpose of forums is for people to be able to read opinions they do not hold themselves in the name of education and so on, but on the other hand i did not use it on someone with whom i disagree -- it was a pathetic foron and vandal whose posts are frequently downright painful to read for those reasons . . .

i do admit that i am still in the process of doing my homework over at madison.com, which looks like an organisational basket case like other parts of the m n i organisation . . .

but i am not at present inclined to turn on ignore and filter user for mr gotch -- from what i can see he posts his opinions in ways some may think over the top, but they are opinions which are in the minority . . . i am sure i am a little too socialisty for american conservatives, thatcherites, f d p and f p ö types but i do get something out of reading their opinions just like every other foron, well almost every foron, and would hope the attitude is mutal . . .

i do admit that i am still in the process of doing my homework over at madison.com, which looks like an organisational basket case like other parts of the m n i organisation . . .

and then are the folks who want to ban ned flanders, roy, and other conservative posters, for reasons that do not make a lot of sense to me . . . the less common the viewpoint on the board, the more important the adherents are to the forum actually working as a forum . . . maybe i missed some specific events earlier but i am not seeing a lot of evidence of that kind of thing . . . and of course there was journalist and my one-time county supervisor and isthmus columnist david blaska†, an interesting and hard-working fellow with whom i agree on very little . . . and does have a mischievous way of getting under the skin of centre-left and other folks and getting what he wants done accomplished -- sort of like a raccoon, i guess . . .

there was even a motley crew that wanted to ban me at different times for various reasons and the same goes for a lot of folks . . .

i was thinking for a short time last autumn that maybe to be a good i d p f citizen i should bite the bullet and try to lead by example by putting brief trigger warning summaries for the entire political spectrum and other considerations on a lot of posts i wrote, even going so far as to list trigger warnings for nativists and other types of extremists and just plain obnoxious folks, and one-line abstracts of longer posts, sort of an "parental warning: explicit lyrics" kind of thing . . .

this although i thought the p m r c ("just give us information so we don't have surprises as consumers" was the original tack they took, after all) and what they generally were able to accomplish was inimical to the interests of all involved in music in general, free speech and so on . . . all that making it one of the few social issues (though it is a consumer and constitutional and general government issue too) with real substance and not intended by one elite or another as a means of dividing the public so they can conquer and hobbling both major u s political parties . . .

but that quickly impressed me as a very bad and self-defeating course of action . . .

i also batted about the idea of maybe a standardised prefix on my thread titles (both so folks can find or avoid) for things such as drugs, sex, and rock n roll and discussions of sex, violence, racism, homophobia and the like, high-quotient profanity, discussions about pornography (a k a pr0n) and descriptons of computer hacking and cracking and and drugs use -- supervised medicinal and otherwise -- and other times one could be accused of being a bad example . . . also general topics like reproductive issues, gun control, and the like which get a lot of people very upset very quickly . . . and then prof wagstaff and myself and others get upset about nazis, and ku klux klan rhetoric is a guranteed adrenaline-pumper for lots of people for similar types of reasons, and so on . . .

but aren't big time the broader-spectrum, general principle, basically avoidant type people a rather serious source of a lot of the workaday penny-ante oppression many people encounter in modern life? yes they are, and i'll tell them that and to grow the fuck up right to their weaselly crybaby oppressor faces . . . i cannot, should not and will not be held responsible for someone's ignorance and/or low-grade or worse personality disorder . . . when asked to walk on eggs, it is better to end up with a great big tasty omelette for the people . . .

naturally, as always i say all of this with highest respect, because i do not like to talk about people, as a good philosopher is apt to say . . .

even my one-time county supervisor and isthmus columnist david blaska,
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* generally it was inadvertently stepping on different assemblanges of toes -- rank and file forons who thought it was their board somehow, journalists of all people who were pissed off because i did not share the ignorantly worshipful opinion of some public official, would-be hall monitor types, arseholes who went sock-puppet spotting and thought i was someone else, truly cracked people whose story i just cannot piece together . . . all kinds of folks . . . the only admin who seriously listened to them is now doing something else and sucking dick for drug money these days, so i am not really upset about any of it . . . by no means "pissed off" at anybody . . .
† a good exemplar of a thompson republican, and needed on i d p f because there were also not only left of centre folks, and democrats, and others, who opposed thompson and his policies, but also an eloquent set of anti-thompson republicans here on the board at one time (back then the anti-thompson republicans were a surprisingly large subset of factions in the state and dane, eau claire, fond du lac and other fox river valley, as well as milwaukee county republican parties by 1998, a cleveage one still sees on occasion in internal republican politics with respect to other issues down to this very day, i was able to determine . . . like anything with thompson, personalities and big egos played a role as well, of course . . .
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Re: **BREAKING HARD**: "Missing" Text Messages Found

Postby Cornelius Gotchberg » Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:58 am

@gozer;

"i do admit that i am still in the process of doing my homework over at madison.com, which looks like an organisational basket case like other parts of the m n i organisation"

Sugarcoat it whydontcha...hopefully this will facilitate your research, as madison.com has purged its archives of nearly all comments.

Madison.com's lateral move to livefyre last Aprilwas like a duck's lateral move to l'Orange.

Myself and another Conservative poster (1 & 2, see below) approached the mods last January because some Lefty morons had been abusing a self-report** mechanism causing mass deletions and reducing the threads to a patchwork pattern of "comment deleted'' and making them virtually unreadable.

**that mechanism auto-deleted any post that received 4 "Report Abuse" flags.

Anywho:

Me: 1- The mass deletions continue apace with no regard for a comments content, merely its author.

Just let me know if you intend to ignore this blatant abuse by a few people and I won't bother you with it any more.

I'll just continue to archive my posts and repost them ad nauseum, I'll not be cyber-shouted down by those dimwits.

People "Following The Discussion" likely get a little tweaked getting the numerous "new comment" alerts.

That, for no other reason than some addlepated simpleton(s) feeling feebly empowered to decide who and what people are allowed to read.
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He: 2- Forgive my skepticism; but, there is no cause & effect evidence to support your statement that you banned folks for mass abuse reporting, it's still happening on a massive scale. If you actually did target and ban some commenters, it was totally ineffective at stopping the abuse and clearly the targeted bans did not slow down the abuse.

There are commenters (internet trolls) out there with some serious online stalking/deletion addiction problems and the lack of effective measures from madison.com to stop the online stalking/deletions is appallingly unethical; your lack of effectively dealing with this abuse is in-turn feeding the trolls.

Here's the problem: madison.com has created a tool for commenters to use that is programmed in such a way that it actually encourages massive abuse by unethical internet trolls. You and I both know this to be a statement of fact; the difference between madison,com and me is, I would have put a stop to it at the first sign of abuse. One simple step madison.com can take right now to stop this kind of abuse would be to render the automatic deletion portion of the Report button code non-functional thus still giving the troll their adrenaline rush by clicking on the button; unethical trolls cannot abuse code that which does not exist. A simpler process could be to go into the HTML <DIV> containing the Report and Add Reply buttons and render the Report button non-visible and thus non-functional by simply commenting out the Report button. Anyone with basic HTML hard coding skills can do this in very short order. This will not stop internet trolls from stalking others and participating at madison.com; however, it will take away one of the methods they use to intentionally abuse others.
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I've never "reported abuse," nor will I. IMHO, comments should stand, or fall, in bright cleansing sunlight.

I will never "block" anyone, nor will I. If I don't want to read a post, I just scroll past; simple as that.

Lefties (like @david cohen, who ought be tending his own problems) believe that because *they* don't want to read something, no right-minded biped will either.

The level of consummate arrogant, egotistical hubris that leads someone to see things that way is interesting to say the least. Breathtakingly stagnating & self-limiting belief superiority to say the most.

My 2 ¢.

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Re: **BREAKING HARD**: "Missing" Text Messages Found

Postby gozer » Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:45 am

in re madison.com: yes, that does indeed to appear to be about the size of it, from what i am able to see . . . i do have some difficulty believing that any one or small number of individuals, no matter whom, could cause the difference from, say, 2009 to the present day . . .
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Re: **BREAKING HARD**: "Missing" Text Messages Found

Postby gozer » Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:05 am

i am wondering about what sites of this type exist covering various locales in the area -- wisconsin, minnesota, iowa, michigan, the chicago area and their cities and counties and regions; even the dakotas, the rest of the northern half of illinois, adjacent parts of indiana, and nearby parts of ontario too . . . i am not seeing a lot of them, so i d p f is almost unique, and certainly worth not letting vandals and vicious partisans shit all over it without vigourous comment and the very occasional application of admin muscle, which to be sure can and has been misused but also can work . . .

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Re: **BREAKING HARD**: "Missing" Text Messages Found

Postby Cornelius Gotchberg » Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:49 am

@gozer;

i do have some difficulty believing that any one or small number of individuals, no matter whom, could cause the difference from, say, 2009 to the present day . . .


Suffice it to say, it did.

And going by erudite claims of the talented @david cohen, @Paleo2, et al, the loneliest number is capable of causing what they deem their ideological fiefdom to spring from its orbit and plummet into El Sol.

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