Yes FBI investigating Russia, no Obama not tapping Trump's phone

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Re: Yes FBI investigating Russia, no Obama not tapping Trump's phone

Postby Roy » Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:07 pm

Ned Flounders wrote: And they let the FBI know about it, because the US services didn't seem to be aware that this was happening.

Your kidding right?

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Re: Yes FBI investigating Russia, no Obama not tapping Trump's phone

Postby Ned Flounders » Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:24 pm

Roy, read the Guardian article that YOU YOURSELF LINKED TO, and that I had already linked to and quoted extensively a week ago in the post RIGHT ABOVE YOURS.

Ned Flounders wrote:The Guardian reports on the role British, German, Australian, and other foreign intelligence services played in alerting the FBI to Trump/Russia connections. Tons of new details:

The European countries that passed on electronic intelligence – known as sigint – included Germany, Estonia and Poland. Australia, a member of the “Five Eyes” spying alliance that also includes the US, UK, Canada and New Zealand, also relayed material, one source said.

Another source suggested the Dutch and the French spy agency, the General Directorate for External Security or DGSE, were contributors....

The alleged conversations were picked up by chance as part of routine surveillance of Russian intelligence assets. Over several months, different agencies targeting the same people began to see a pattern of connections that were flagged to intelligence officials in the US...

“It looks like the [US] agencies were asleep,” the source added. “They [the European agencies] were saying: ‘There are contacts going on between people close to Mr Trump and people we believe are Russian intelligence agents. You should be wary of this.’


“The message was: ‘Watch out. There’s something not right here.’” ....

According to one account, GCHQ’s then head, Robert Hannigan, passed material in summer 2016 to the CIA chief, John Brennan. The matter was deemed so sensitive it was handled at “director level”. After an initially slow start, Brennan used GCHQ information and intelligence from other partners to launch a major inter-agency investigation.

In late August and September Brennan gave a series of classified briefings to the Gang of Eight, the top-ranking Democratic and Republican leaders in the House and Senate. He told them the agency had evidence the Kremlin might be trying to help Trump to win the presidency, the New York Times reported.

Lots more details in the report:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... nks-russia

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Re: Yes FBI investigating Russia, no Obama not tapping Trump's phone

Postby gargantua » Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:30 pm

Hmmmm. I wonder if Roy will admit that your post has any validity. I can hardly wait to find pfft! I mean, out.

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Re: Yes FBI investigating Russia, no Obama not tapping Trump's phone

Postby Ned Flounders » Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:31 pm

Roy wrote:
Ned Flounders wrote: And they let the FBI know about it, because the US services didn't seem to be aware that this was happening.

Your kidding right?

More from the same Guardian article that ROY HIMSELF LINKED TO, but apparently did not actually read:

"the FBI and the CIA were slow to appreciate the extensive nature of contacts between Trump’s team and Moscow ahead of the US election. This was in part due to US law that prohibits US agencies from examining the private communications of American citizens without warrants. “They are trained not to do this,” the source stressed."

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Re: Yes FBI investigating Russia, no Obama not tapping Trump's phone

Postby jman111 » Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:04 pm

Did someone pull his talking point off the wrong Teletype?

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Re: Yes FBI investigating Russia, no Obama not tapping Trump's phone

Postby Roy » Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:04 pm

I didn't miss anything Ned. You are misconstruing what is in the Guardian.

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Re: Yes FBI investigating Russia, no Obama not tapping Trump's phone

Postby jonnygothispen » Wed Apr 19, 2017 6:16 am

"That deaf, dumb, obtuse, ignorant & blind kid sure plays mean pinball..."

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Re: Yes FBI investigating Russia, no Obama not tapping Trump's phone

Postby Ned Flounders » Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:36 am

Roy wrote:I didn't miss anything Ned. You are misconstruing what is in the Guardian.

No, what I wrote was exactly what was in the Guardian.

The fact that your initial response was incredulity shows that you either didn't read or didn't understand the article and that you're not keeping up with the news on this issue.

The fact that you're still arguing this is downright ridiculous.

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Re: Yes FBI investigating Russia, no Obama not tapping Trump's phone

Postby DCB » Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:01 pm

Ned Flounders wrote:The fact that you're still arguing this is downright ridiculous.

No, the fact that you're still arguing is ridiculous.

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Re: Yes FBI investigating Russia, no Obama not tapping Trump's phone

Postby gargantua » Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:13 pm

DCB wrote:
Ned Flounders wrote:The fact that you're still arguing this is downright ridiculous.

No, the fact that you're still arguing is ridiculous.

I gotta go with DCB here. But, it's Ned's dime and Ned's time.

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Re: Yes FBI investigating Russia, no Obama not tapping Trump's phone

Postby Cadfael » Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:50 pm

I think Ned ought to take it just a bit further. Stupid needs to be called out. Disinformation artists need to be exposed.

We all know Roy will never, ever admit he was wrong unless he considers the point to be irrelevant and obscure but he needs to be taken to the wall every time he tries to disseminate lies. That theater of absurdity script he uses for a bible needs to be exposed.

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Re: Yes FBI investigating Russia, no Obama not tapping Trump's phone

Postby Henry Vilas » Wed Apr 19, 2017 2:58 pm

Yes, sunlight is the greatest disinfectant.

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Re: Yes FBI investigating Russia, no Obama not tapping Trump's phone

Postby Ned Flounders » Wed Apr 19, 2017 3:52 pm

DCB wrote:
Ned Flounders wrote:The fact that you're still arguing this is downright ridiculous.

No, the fact that you're still arguing is ridiculous.

Or maybe it's the fact that you're commenting on my rebuking Roy for continuing to argue about this is what's ridiculous.

Or my replying to your commenting on ....

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Re: Yes FBI investigating Russia, no Obama not tapping Trump's phone

Postby Henry Vilas » Fri Apr 21, 2017 7:40 pm

Russia tried to infiltrate Trump campaign through advisers

Moscow attempted to infiltrate President Trump's 2016 campaign by using his advisers, CNN reported on Friday.

U.S. officials told the news network that the Russian government attempted to use advisers, including Carter Page, in their strategy to infiltrate Trump's political team during the campaign season.

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Re: Yes FBI investigating Russia, no Obama not tapping Trump's phone

Postby Ned Flounders » Tue Apr 25, 2017 2:42 pm

No surprises here, but it's nice to have this confirmed, and mildly astonishing that Jason "Cover-Up" Chaffetz actually had something to say about it.

Flynn Likely Broke Law in Accepting Russian Payments, Lawmakers Say

President Trump’s first national security adviser appears to have violated the law by failing to disclose payments he received from Russia’s government — even as he sought a security clearance from our own — senior lawmakers on the House Oversight Committee said Wednesday.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/20 ... ments.html

For some reason the Trump White House is refusing to turn over any of the requested documents to Congressional investigators, though.


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