International Women's Day Strike, March 8

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International Women's Day Strike, March 8

Postby Beaver » Wed Feb 08, 2017 10:56 am

Wednesday, March 8 at 7 PM - 9 PM
George L. Mosse Humanities Building Room 3650
455 N Park St, Madison

"SPEAKERS:
Lupe Salmeron - Edgewood College student, immigrant rights activist, DACA recipient and DREAMer will speak on the intersection between the fight for immigrant and women's rights in the Trump era.

Darletta Scruggs - Organizer with Chicago Socialist Alterntive, Movement for Black Lives. Darletta previously organized her co-workers at Brinks Security for a one day strike to join the Fight for $15/hr. She's also known for a viral video watched by millions, of her taking down Fox News host Neil Cavuto on his own program, arguing for Free Higher Ed.

Katie Quarles - is on the Statewide Board of Directors* for the Minnesota Nurses Association(part of the National Nurses Association). Long time socialist organizer who's got experience organizing in Aachen, Germany as well as in Minneapolis. She's a member of our National Committee for Socialist Alternative and has experience in many battles - labor solidarity, feminism, anti-war movement and more. (*personal capacity)

Local Speaker TBA
Join this International Womens Day to say loud and clear - WE CAN DEFEAT TRUMP's SEXISM! The millions of women who marched after Inauguration Day showed there is no mandate for Trump’s corporate-backed divide and conquer agenda. Mass protests just won their first important victory, temporarily blocking Trump’s order for a #MuslimBan. But Trump is not backing down. If there was any doubt about his sexist agenda, his Supreme Court nomination of Neil Gorsuch makes it clear that he plans to repeal Roe v. Wade in an ongoing war on women’s rights and reproductive justice.

Join us for a discussion on a socialist strategy to defeat Trump's sexism and the broader systemic gender violence and gender oppression fostered by capitalist politics and economics.

As its celebrated today, International Womens day has been cleansed of its radical tradition, like many holidays which have been made safe for the establishment. Learn about the powerful international tradition of socialist women fighters across the generations and the militant working class legacy of International Women's Day. International Women's Day has its roots in striking women workers in the United States and was originally heralded as a global day of celebration and militant struggle by German Socialist leader Clara Zetkin in 1912."
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Re: International Women's Day Strike, March 8

Postby Beaver » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:10 pm

Reminder about Wednesday. I wonder how big this will be.

Everything You Need to Know About the Women's Strike on March 8
http://www.glamour.com/story/everything ... on-march-8

"How can I be part of the March 8 demonstrations?
The Women's March organizers have asked those who can participate to do so in any of the following ways:
1. Refraining from work—both paid and unpaid
2. Refraining from shopping in stores and online (exceptions can be made for local small businesses and women-owned businesses that are not part of the #GrabYourWallet boycott)
3. Wearing red—a color of love, revolution, energy, and sacrifice—in solidarity"

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Re: International Women's Day Strike, March 8

Postby PaleoLiberal » Sat Mar 04, 2017 8:13 pm

One of the national organizers of this event is a convicted Palestinian terrorist who murdered two innocent Israeli civilians many years ago.

I refuse to have anything to do with this event.

My sister-in-law is an American born dual US/Israel citizen whose European relatives were completely killed off by Nazis in WW II. She, and her kids (my blood relatives) are fluent in Arabic and Hebrew and have all worked for peace in Israel/Palestine. I will have nothing to do with terrorist murderers.

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Re: International Women's Day Strike, March 8

Postby PaleoLiberal » Sun Mar 05, 2017 10:03 am

Beaver wrote:Reminder about Wednesday. I wonder how big this will be.

Everything You Need to Know About the Women's Strike on March 8
http://www.glamour.com/story/everything ... on-march-8

"How can I be part of the March 8 demonstrations?
The Women's March organizers have asked those who can participate to do so in any of the following ways:
1. Refraining from work—both paid and unpaid
2. Refraining from shopping in stores and online (exceptions can be made for local small businesses and women-owned businesses that are not part of the #GrabYourWallet boycott)
3. Wearing red—a color of love, revolution, energy, and sacrifice—in solidarity"


Red as in Communist.

The link leads to a link in the Guardian where the March march is announced. Look at the last two names.
Ms. Odeh is a convicted Palestinian terrorist who blew up Jews.
Ms. Davis was at least acquitted of a terrorist act that killed four people. She was a leader of the Communist Party USA from 1969 until the USSR collapsed.

I don't think these are people I could ever follow. To Hell with them and their National Socialist Alliance

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Re: International Women's Day Strike, March 8

Postby PaleoLiberal » Sun Mar 05, 2017 10:51 am

A link so you know I'm not making this up about the National Socialist Jew Killer Rasmea Odeh

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rasmea_Odeh

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Re: International Women's Day Strike, March 8

Postby Beaver » Sun Mar 05, 2017 8:09 pm

More details. Is East high the only h.s. participating?

"We will unite in a Day Without A Woman on March 8th. If you are able, take the day off of both paid and unpaid labor to participate and come down to the state capitol. If you cannot take the day, just come during your lunch hour for our noon rally. We have the opportunity to continue our show of force and unite in large numbers to declare our support of women and respect for their contributions. Wear Red in solidarity with our struggle and patronize women-owned businesses that day.

8:45am-- A morning of events focused on girls. Bring your daughters, granddaughters, and nieces to the state capitol to learn about women in government and gender equity.

11am-- Lunch Hour Walkouts begin. High schoolers will be marching from East High and UW students will be marching from Library Mall. Each of their events begin at 11.
For more information on UW's event:

12:00-- All of our multi-generational groups will convene at the capitol for a rally. Speakers will be determined.

1pm-4pm-- We will have the opportunity to take direct action and head into the capitol to meet our Representatives and Senators in their offices and lobby on issues that affect women's fair entry, representation, and compensation in our workforce.

7pm-- International Women's Day Against Trump: Speakers from a variety of organizations will discuss issues impacting women and a socialist strategy to address sexist policies. For more information on this event":

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Re: International Women's Day Strike, March 8

Postby PaleoLiberal » Sun Mar 05, 2017 8:16 pm

Why do you publicize an event run by terrorists?

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Re: International Women's Day Strike, March 8

Postby bdog » Mon Mar 06, 2017 4:25 am

For the record Beaver, do you support terrorists? This is for the record.

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Re: International Women's Day Strike, March 8

Postby Beaver » Mon Mar 06, 2017 12:00 pm

Of course I don't support terrorists. I never heard of Rasmea Odeh before. Reading about her, she was convicted of the attack almost 50 years ago, served 10 years in prison, then was released in a prisoner swap. Also, she now claims her confession was made under torture, but this is disputed.

Her crime was a long time ago and she served her time. She is just one of eight organizers. Yes I wish the women's protest organizers would replace her with someone else, but this isn't enough to stop me from publicizing the event. The event is peaceful, seems worth while, and has nothing to do with supporting terrorism. That seems obvious so I wouldn't think I would need to explain that.

PaleoLiberal wrote:Why do you publicize an event run by terrorists?

Just one of the organizers committed one terrorist crime many years ago and served time for it. Don't make it sound worse than it is. What do you think should be done with Odeh? Prison for life? Death sentence? Should she not be allowed to reform herself and do good?

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Re: International Women's Day Strike, March 8

Postby PaleoLiberal » Mon Mar 06, 2017 2:10 pm

No. That is NOT the case.

One of the organizers was convicted of three terrorist acts many years ago. Not one, but three.
The first two were in the same day. Two students were killed in the first act, and then the police defused the second bomb. She placed another bomb later, which fortunately didn't kill anyone, after the first two. Hardly a sign of remorse.

She was sentenced to life in prison, and was released as part of a prisoner exchange. She didn't serve her time for it. She also committed fraud in entering the US, and has had her US citizenship stripped. Her first conviction was overturned, and she is being retried now. If convicted, she will serve more time in a US prison, then be deported.

Nor is it clear she is the only terrorist of the bunch. Angela Davis was acquitted of terrorism, but she did buy guns that were shortly afterwards used in a terrorist act that killed four people and wounded two.


I have lost people I know, including my grandfather (indirectly) to terrorism. I take it seriously.

My own personal rules for events are no terrorists, no Communists and no Nazis. If any of those groups are involved, I stay very far away. I wouldn't even step inside Radical Rye. I guess because the first time I saw RR was a few months after having ashes from the World Trade Center fall on me, and the idea of going into a place run by a former terrorist, with pictures of Che on the wall, completely creeped me out. I'm just kinda anti-terrorist. Sorry it bothers you.

Angela Davis was a leader of the Communist Party USA for 22 years. From 1969 until 1991, when the USSR (which controlled the CPUSA) fell apart, then joined another Marxist organization. Make no mistake about it, the leaders of this group are Communists. Not mushy Trotskyites, but full-blown Comintern. Consider that by the time Angela Davis became a leader of the CPUSA, Communists governments had killed over 100 million of their own civilians.

So, the organizers include 1 or 2 terrorists, all are Marxists, and one was a leader of the CPUSA the last 22 years it was controlled by the Kremlin. Another one of this NATIONAL conference of SOCIALISTS alternatives is a Jew killing terrorist. Seems like, of the 3 absolute no-go items for me, it has about 2 1/2. Terrorists, Communists and Jew killing National Socialists.

So, I very seriously question your judgment in continuing to publicize this after this information was brought to your attention.

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Re: International Women's Day Strike, March 8

Postby Beaver » Tue Mar 07, 2017 10:04 am

PaleoLiberal wrote:3. Wearing red—a color of love, revolution, energy, and sacrifice—in solidarity"
Red as in Communist.

Badger fans were red. Are they communists?

"Angela Davis was acquitted of terrorism, but she did buy guns that were shortly afterwards used in a terrorist act that killed four people and wounded two."
If she had guns taken from her she can't be blamed. She was acquitted as you said and is distinguished professor emerita at the University of California.

If you hate Communists, what do you think of Trump and his cabinet getting cozy with Russia? Do you consider Putin to be more of a Capitalist, Communist, or Marxist?

If former KKK members held a benefit for domestic abuse victims in Dane co, would you attend? I would attend and thank them. To me the merits of an event are more important than who organizes it.

You haven't said anything about the merits of this event. Aside from the organizers, what do you think of it? Good or bad intentions?

How many people do you think are participating in this event based on what I've posted? Maybe five? What do you think of all the people signed up on the FB pages for this event? Are you posting on FB telling them not to participate because it is organized by former communists and terrorists? Would that be a better way to stop this event than arguing with me here?

https://www.womensmarch.com/womensday

"A Day Without a Woman reaffirms our commitment to the Principles of Unity, which were collaboratively outlined for the Women’s March. We are inspired by recent courageous actions like the "Bodega strike" lead by Yemeni immigrant store owners in New York City and the Day Without Immigrants across the U.S. We applaud the efforts of #GrabYourWallet and others to bring public accountability to unethical corporate practices. The Women's March stands in solidarity with the International Women's Strike organizers, feminists of color and grassroots groups in planning global actions for equity, justice and human rights.

ENDORSEMENTS
9to5, National Association of Working Women
Action Wednesday, formerly d/b/a FemInUs
Alliance for Justice
Amnesty International
Black Women's Roundtable
Center for Health and Gender Equity (CHANGE)
Democracy Spring
Equal Rights Advocates
Every Voice
Good Story Films
Got a Girl Crush
Incarcerated Nation Corp.
International Women's Convocation
Jews for Racial & Economic Justice
Moms Demand Action
MoveOn.org
National Women's Liberation
One Down Dog
Portland Women in Technology (PDXWIT)
Sierra Club
Sonos
The Susan Jolley Awareness Program
UltraViolet
Unite Women New York Inc
We Are Woman
The Wing
Women's Information Network New York City (WINNYC)
Women Across Frontiers
Women for Justice
Women Occupy Hollywood
The Women Worldwide Initiative"

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Re: International Women's Day Strike, March 8

Postby O.J. » Tue Mar 07, 2017 11:50 am

PaleoLiberal wrote:Why do you publicize an event run by terrorists?


To be fair, ShortyBeaver publicizes pretty much every event that crosses his radar. He thinks he's providing a crucial service to the forum. It would be adorable if it weren't so sad.

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Re: International Women's Day Strike, March 8

Postby PaleoLiberal » Tue Mar 07, 2017 11:52 am

Badgers, Chinese Brides, Bloods and Communists use the color red, all for different reasons. For a political organization with "Socialist" as part of the title, and one of the leaders a former leader of the CPUSA, it is rather clear that red means Communist.

As for Trump and Putin, I have addressed that in other threads more than once.

As far as I know, there have been no KKK events in Dane County since I moved here. There was one Nazi event, and I actually agreed with the claimed cause of the event, but I stayed miles away, because I didn't want to be associated with the Nazis and their baggage.

This is not a fundraiser for domestic abuse victims. This is a political event. The stated goal is for a Socialist movement. Socialism can mean anything from Sanders to Stalin. The background of some of the organizers is a lot closer to Stalin than to Sanders.

As far back as WW II, there was a huge split in the Left between those who welcomed the involvement of Communists, led by Vice President Henry Wallace, and those who wanted to purge Communists from the Democratic Party, led by First Lady Elanor Roosevelt. Elanor Roosevelt's organization was the Americans for Democratic Action.

What was fascinating is that my family was clearly on the ADA side, but got blacklisted by Joe McCarthy anyway. Such is life.

I am also old enough to remember when feminism was something that involved people of all political persuasions. A close friend of the family, Muriel Fox, was one of the founders of NOW. My mother was a founder of a DC feminist organization, WOW, and later was one of the better known feminists in Arkansas. I remember my mother did whatever she could to try to make feminism appealing to conservative women as well as liberal women. This group is trying to make feminism a Communist thang.

I think that allowing the radical fringe left to take control of the feminist and the anti-Trump movements is a recipe for disaster. I can already see the backlash from the execrable violent anti-free speech actions of Antifa. Turning feminism into a movement run by Communists with a violent past is a way to repel the other 99.9% of the country. I think it does far, far more harm than good.

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Re: International Women's Day Strike, March 8

Postby Beaver » Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:35 pm

O.J. wrote:To be fair, Beaver publicizes pretty much every event that crosses his radar. He thinks he's providing a crucial service to the forum. It would be adorable if it weren't so sad.

What do you publicize here that is any interest? Nothing.

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Re: International Women's Day Strike, March 8

Postby fflambeau » Tue Mar 07, 2017 8:10 pm

"The link leads to a link in the Guardian where the March march is announced. Look at the last two names.
Ms. Odeh is a convicted Palestinian terrorist who blew up Jews."

Sorry, I've looked at the link you are talking about and there are no personal names mentioned. In the FAQ's there is a list of organizations that are supporting this and they include such dangerous groups as: the Sierra Club, Moveon.org, and Amnesty International.

If you are making wild claims about killers and terrorists, why not identify who you are talking about and provide something factual (like a real link).


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