Observations on Trump Administration

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Re: Observations on Trump Administration

Postby Cadfael » Tue Apr 11, 2017 2:35 pm

Roy wrote:
Cadfael wrote:
Roy wrote:Oh!

You did read the complaint right? We have pending legislation in 16 states to limit protesting? And you think that's fine, but you also believe the UN doesn't like our freedom?

Yup. That's the crazy. :crazy:

No I am totally against any legislation against limiting "legal" protesting. As far as the UN, they don't like us no matter what we do.

You're a good third world servant of the rich, Roy. It's too bad they fucked you over anyway.

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Re: Observations on Trump Administration

Postby Roy » Tue Apr 11, 2017 2:38 pm

Cadfael wrote:
Roy wrote:
Cadfael wrote:You did read the complaint right? We have pending legislation in 16 states to limit protesting? And you think that's fine, but you also believe the UN doesn't like our freedom?

Yup. That's the crazy. :crazy:

No I am totally against any legislation against limiting "legal" protesting. As far as the UN, they don't like us no matter what we do.

You're a good third world servant of the rich, Roy. It's too bad they fucked you over anyway.

The only ones fucking me and the rest of the citizens is the Democratic Progressive Socialists.

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Re: Observations on Trump Administration

Postby Cadfael » Tue Apr 11, 2017 2:48 pm

Roy wrote:
Cadfael wrote:
Roy wrote:No I am totally against any legislation against limiting "legal" protesting. As far as the UN, they don't like us no matter what we do.

You're a good third world servant of the rich, Roy. It's too bad they fucked you over anyway.

The only ones fucking me and the rest of the citizens is the Democratic Progressive Socialists.

Yeah. Cause they have so much power now. :mrgreen: :crazy:

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Re: Observations on Trump Administration

Postby Bland » Tue Apr 11, 2017 2:49 pm

Roy wrote:The only ones fucking me and the rest of the citizens is the Democratic Progressive Socialists.

How exactly are the people with no power fucking you? Be specific. Then ask yourself why you don't care that the President is getting richer stealing tax dollars for weekend vacationing.

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Re: Observations on Trump Administration

Postby Roy » Tue Apr 11, 2017 2:57 pm

Bland wrote:
Roy wrote:The only ones fucking me and the rest of the citizens is the Democratic Progressive Socialists.

How exactly are the people with no power fucking you? Be specific. Then ask yourself why you don't care that the President is getting richer stealing tax dollars for weekend vacationing.

Who said anything about "people with no power" other than you? I am talking about the progressives and socialists that the left keeps electing, that fuck over the minorities. Keeps boarders open with max immigration possible, because they know that they mostly vote Democrat. The likely reason is that they are not used to as much freedom as we have here, so go with the party that tends to give less of it.

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Re: Observations on Trump Administration

Postby Bland » Tue Apr 11, 2017 2:59 pm

Roy wrote:
Bland wrote:
Roy wrote:The only ones fucking me and the rest of the citizens is the Democratic Progressive Socialists.

How exactly are the people with no power fucking you? Be specific. Then ask yourself why you don't care that the President is getting richer stealing tax dollars for weekend vacationing.

Who said anything about "people with no power" other than you?

You did when you blamed seemingly any and all problems on "Democratic Progressive Socialists." Cause last time I checked, they weren't calling the shots.

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Re: Observations on Trump Administration

Postby Henry Vilas » Tue Apr 11, 2017 4:03 pm

Trump will blame Obama for everything that goes wrong under his presidency (however long that lasts), just like Roy will blame "Democratic Progressive Socialists" for everything that goes wrong under Republican leadership, both at the state and federal level.

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Re: Observations on Trump Administration

Postby Cadfael » Tue Apr 11, 2017 4:22 pm

Newsweek:
DONALD TRUMP'S MANY BUSINESS FAILURES, EXPLAINED
A tale of a rich kid who kept making deals that were a net loss for him and/or his dad but talking about them as if they were genius level moneymakers. Multiple bailouts from his father, lying under oath, desperate obsessions with fitting into the New York elite and fashion crowd.

Here's the money quote, in my own humble opinion:
All of these names and numbers can grow confusing for voters with little exposure to the business world. So to sum it all up, Trump is rich because he was born rich—and without his father repeatedly bailing him out, he would have likely filed for personal bankruptcy before he was 35.

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Re: Observations on Trump Administration

Postby Cadfael » Tue Apr 11, 2017 7:01 pm

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That's from a New York Mag article.
37 percent of Democrats back Trump’s missile strikes. In 2013, 38 percent of Democrats supported Obama’s plan. That is well within the margin of error.

How about Republicans? Well, that’s a wildly different picture:

In 2013, when Barack Obama was president, a Washington Post–ABC News poll found that only 22 percent of Republicans supported the U.S. launching missile strikes against Syria in response to Bashar al-Assad using chemical weapons against civilians.

A new Post-ABC poll finds that 86 percent of Republicans support Donald Trump’s decision to launch strikes on Syria for the same reason. Only 11 percent are opposed.


Oh, my. I'm shocked. Things that make you go "Wow you're just noticing this, eh?"

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Re: Observations on Trump Administration

Postby IU2Bmanoletters » Wed Apr 12, 2017 9:43 pm

My own sense re: Trump's recent airstrikes against Syria boils down to this: I'm a constitutional "strict constructionist" where it pertains to matters of war. I believe that the "founding fathers" had it right when they stated simply that it is the prerogative of Congress (and Congress alone) to "declare war."

The War Powers Act of 1973 MAY have originally been formulated as a well-meaning effort to rein in the unconstitutional and largely unchecked war-making activities of Presidents such as Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson and then-President Nixon. But it seems to have been subsequently, skillfully, and repeatedly utilized by presidents like Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama; and it's now being employed by Trump as a license to wage "limited" war, and potentially unlimited war - like the one in Afghanistan that has raged since 2001.

The idea held by some that the War Powers Act represents an unconstitutional infringement on the Commander in Chief's ability to engage in military intervention at whatever time and place he chooses strikes me as a convenient ploy; a nasty little "legalistic nicety" designed to circumvent that legal NECESSITY outlined in the Constitution, of actually DECLARING war. Congress and the Supreme Court should never, as a rule, make it too easy for the chief executive to engage in hostilities at a moment's notice. By now it appears obvious to me both those branches of government have ceded whatever critical oversight they might have brought to bear, time and again.

"Trump's Syria airstrikes: constitutional or not?"
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... al-or-not/
"So over the past few decades, presidents have routinely asserted their authority to take military action without prior congressional approval. Congress has largely acquiesced, and the Supreme Court hasn’t weighed in in any significant way.

So reasonable minds can disagree over whether this trend is constitutional."

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Re: Observations on Trump Administration

Postby gargantua » Wed Apr 12, 2017 10:54 pm

It's a show. We launch a strike, that we tip off in advance. Suddenly, we're at odds with Russia. Because some inconsequential strike that we tipped them off to has brought our relationship with Russia to its lowest ebb ever. Jesus H. Christ. How stupid do they think we are?

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Re: Observations on Trump Administration

Postby Cadfael » Thu Apr 13, 2017 1:01 am

gargantua wrote:It's a show. We launch a strike, that we tip off in advance. Suddenly, we're at odds with Russia. Because some inconsequential strike that we tipped them off to has brought our relationship with Russia to its lowest ebb ever. Jesus H. Christ. How stupid do they think we are?

I think what's making you mad is how many of us out there really are that freaking dumb.

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Re: Observations on Trump Administration

Postby DCB » Mon Apr 17, 2017 9:20 am

The administration - President*, VP, Sec. State - is making noises about North Korea. To me, it sounds like
Blah blah blah North Korea blah blah blah bomb threats blah blah blah.


I read somewhere that at the moment the US has no official ambassador to South Korea, Japan, or China. Because who needs diplomacy when you have the MOAB?

This will end well.

Also funny: the President* found out that the NK problem is really hard after 10 minutes with his new BFF, President Xi.

We have always been allies with China. We have always been at war with Russia.

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Re: Observations on Trump Administration

Postby Cadfael » Mon Apr 17, 2017 11:25 am

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Re: Observations on Trump Administration

Postby IU2Bmanoletters » Tue Apr 18, 2017 12:55 pm

Will the steel used in constructing his vile, ugly, wall even be produced here in the USA? I know whereof I speak - I've seen the "fence" alongside the Tijuana-San Diego stretch of the border. Hideous, and it sends an evil message, much like Trump himself. Interesting that when Miller Park in Milwaukee was built, there was no steelmaker left in the USA who produced the necessary type of metal needed; only Belgium, South Korea and a few others - probably including China - manufactured it. And that was back circa 1999.
"Trump to sign 'Buy American, Hire American' executive order:"
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 100582276/


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