Future Dems Continue to Stream Across Southern Border

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Re: Future Dems Continue to Stream Across Southern Border

Postby Uncle Fester » Thu Jun 12, 2014 7:35 am

rabble wrote:"Put some fear into the unions?"

Which of the surviving remnants of the unions don't have any fear yet?


None, which is his point.

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Re: Future Dems Continue to Stream Across Southern Border

Postby Ned Flanders » Fri Jun 20, 2014 5:02 pm

VA town tells Feds to pound sand.

Feds apologize for miscues over immigrant kids

LAWRENCEVILLE, Va. — Contrite federal officials apologized to residents of a tiny southern Virginia town Thursday night for keeping them in the dark as they prepared to bring in hundreds of Central American children and teenagers to a temporary shelter.

"Absolutely, we feel we didn't do it right here," said Mark A. Weber, a spokesman for the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. "We're here to listen to the community. We're here to sort this out." He was speaking prior to the meeting.

An overflow crowd packed the 900-seat Brunswick High School auditorium in the farming town of nearly 1,500. Many residents arrived at the school carrying small signs that read "No illegal immigrants," but they were told to leave them outside. Numerous law enforcement officers were on hand.

Read more here: http://www.kentucky.com/2014/06/19/3300 ... rylink=cpy

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Re: Future Dems Continue to Stream Across Southern Border

Postby david cohen » Sat Jun 21, 2014 11:44 am

Shouldn't this thread be titled "Future slave laborers Continue to Stream...." Now that's something the GOP can celebrate!

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Re: Future Dems Continue to Stream Across Southern Border

Postby Ned Flanders » Sat Jun 21, 2014 11:54 am

david cohen wrote:Shouldn't this thread be titled "Future slave laborers Continue to Stream...." Now that's something the GOP can celebrate!

Our friend Dave has forgotten which party perpetuated and profited from slavery...

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Re: Future Dems Continue to Stream Across Southern Border

Postby rabble » Sat Jun 21, 2014 2:03 pm

Ned Flanders wrote:
david cohen wrote:Shouldn't this thread be titled "Future slave laborers Continue to Stream...." Now that's something the GOP can celebrate!

Our friend Dave has forgotten which party perpetuated and profited from slavery...

Our friend Ned wishes we could go back to those days, before Democrats renounced it and Republicans figured out how profitable it was.

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Re: Future Dems Continue to Stream Across Southern Border

Postby Sandi » Sat Jun 21, 2014 3:02 pm

rabble wrote:Our friend Ned wishes we could go back to those days, before Democrats renounced it and Republicans figured out how profitable it was.


Most Dems never renounced it: they just transferred it from blacks mostly to whites.

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Re: Future Dems Continue to Stream Across Southern Border

Postby rabble » Sat Jun 21, 2014 3:04 pm

Sandi wrote:
rabble wrote:Our friend Ned wishes we could go back to those days, before Democrats renounced it and Republicans figured out how profitable it was.


Most Dems never renounced it: they just transferred it from blacks mostly to whites.

And there's Sandi, adding something well researched and timely to the discussion. No trolling for her.

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Re: Future Dems Continue to Stream Across Southern Border

Postby Sandi » Sat Jun 21, 2014 3:07 pm

Pound sand. Troll

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Re: Future Dems Continue to Stream Across Southern Border

Postby Uncle Fester » Sun Jun 22, 2014 4:05 pm

We're the third most populous country in the world and growing precipitously every day. Millions are unemployed or underemployed and millions more are on disability or on the dole. Obama is advertising free health care to one and all while Biden thinks we need an unrelenting stream of new immigrants. Meanwhile, we're $17 trillion in debt. It's insanity.

I think this guy provides a reasonable discussion of the issue:

“Open borders” refers to a policy of unlimited or free immigration. I argue here that it is a bad policy. If you are poor and your country provides no social safety net, you move to one that does. If you are rich and your country makes you pay your taxes, you move (or at least move your money) to one that doesn’t. Thus safety nets, and public goods in general, disappear as they become both overloaded and underfunded. That is the “world without borders,” and without community. That is the tragedy of open access commons. -Herman Daly

http://steadystate.org/open-borders-and ... s-commons/

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Re: Future Dems Continue to Stream Across Southern Border

Postby Henry Vilas » Sun Jun 22, 2014 4:29 pm

So your solution is...? Details, please.

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Re: Future Dems Continue to Stream Across Southern Border

Postby rabble » Sun Jun 22, 2014 4:46 pm

I think we should help Mexico get good health care and living wages.

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Re: Future Dems Continue to Stream Across Southern Border

Postby DCB » Sun Jun 22, 2014 10:55 pm

rabble wrote:I think we should help Mexico get good health care and living wages.

That's the most practical approach; for some reason, the "illegals are worse than Al Qaeda" crowd haven't picked up on that.

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Re: Future Dems Continue to Stream Across Southern Border

Postby HeyZeus » Sun Jun 22, 2014 11:09 pm

"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"


"Brown people go back to where you came from."

~rethuglican version

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Re: Future Dems Continue to Stream Across Southern Border

Postby rabble » Mon Jun 23, 2014 8:21 am

DCB wrote:
rabble wrote:I think we should help Mexico get good health care and living wages.

That's the most practical approach; for some reason, the "illegals are worse than Al Qaeda" crowd haven't picked up on that.

Perhaps it is more practical and cost effective to build an impenetrable two thousand mile wall manned by armed guards.

But where would we find the laborers to build such a wall? Finding armed guards would be easy. Unless beer and impromptu target practice weren't allowed during working hours.

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Re: Future Dems Continue to Stream Across Southern Border

Postby Huckleby » Mon Jun 23, 2014 11:55 am

rabble wrote:I think we should help Mexico get good health care and living wages.


Maybe the discussion changed, but the original topic was all the kids coming across the border. They are almost entirely from Central America.

Also, this issue has nothing to do with border security. There is no failure to identify and capture them - the kids come across the river (mostly) and seek out authorities to turn themselves in. The proposed great fence on the border is a virtual fence to detect people, not an impenetrable physical wall.

The worst bit of nonsense connected with this issue is the right wing giddily repeating that Obama's policy has created a "humanitarian crisis." The humanitarian crisis is in Central America, where violence is escalating, and not caused by Obama. Whatever unpleasantness the kids are experiencing in the U.S. is a bad summer camp experience in comparison. The Republicans don't care about stinkin humanitarian crisis, what a bunch of phonies.


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