Repubs (and Dems) show compassion by cutting food stamps

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Re: Repubs (and Dems) show compassion by cutting food stamps

Postby Detritus » Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:26 pm

Rich Schultz wrote:Bla bla bla

First table: figures in 2011 dollars--which is to say, uncorrected for inflation.
Second table: again, figures uncorrected for inflation and no recognition of the number of people being served.
Third table: every red bar except the first one marks a year that hasn't happened yet, thereby comparing an actual average with a "projected" average.
Fourth table: again let's ignore inflation as well the number of people being served.

I hope you never took statistics in school, because if you did, that's a terrible indictment of our educational system. Or you know better, but enjoy lying.

To summarize your post: more people are receiving government assistance than before. Yes, so why is that? Could it be because your party has fucked over even the tepid efforts by the Democrats to produce a recovery for someone other than the 1%? Could it reflect the major shift of wealth and financial stability from the working class and middle class to the rich going on since, oh, Reagan? Could it be the result of decades of neoliberal "core meltdown" to US industry, moving all meaningful production offshore and leaving the folks in the US board rooms as the only ones not losing ground year after year?

Nah, it must be THE CULTURE OF POVERTY! THE DANGERS OF CREEPING SOCIALISM! RAMPANT ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION! GUN CONTROL!

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Re: Repubs (and Dems) show compassion by cutting food stamps

Postby Stebben84 » Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:43 pm

Detritus wrote:Nah, it must be THE CULTURE OF POVERTY! THE DANGERS OF CREEPING SOCIALISM! RAMPANT ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION! GUN CONTROL!


Don't forget...BENGHAZI!

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Re: Repubs (and Dems) show compassion by cutting food stamps

Postby DCB » Fri Nov 15, 2013 1:27 pm

Detritus wrote:To summarize your post: more people are receiving government assistance than before.

Its correlated with the recession.
Logically, if we cut government assistance, the recession will go away. QED.

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Re: Repubs (and Dems) show compassion by cutting food stamps

Postby Mad Howler » Sun Nov 17, 2013 12:38 am

Interesting discussions this evening.
Still more 'deep' concern regarding lack of effort from the unempowered.
These discussions ran with both sides of my 'wisconsin' duopoly.
Very interesting.
MH

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Re: Repubs (and Dems) show compassion by cutting food stamps

Postby Detritus » Mon Nov 18, 2013 11:50 am

New study of 28 countries finds that paying benefits does not make unemployed people lazy.
In some respects the easy target is slashing benefits for claiming and implying that they all lazy, but the much more grown up thing to do is say that there are structural issues surrounding the job market and take a long hard look at those issues.


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