97% Scientist Consensus: global warming is man-made

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Re: 97% Scientist Consensus: global warming is man-made

Postby Cadfael » Tue Feb 06, 2018 6:00 pm

I'll repost the earth temperature timeline again some other time.
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Re: 97% Scientist Consensus: global warming is man-made

Postby gargantua » Tue Feb 06, 2018 6:29 pm

The building named for Tommy Thompson is on West Washington, across from the Lorraine Building. I'm glad Hasler's name stayed on the limnology building.

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Re: 97% Scientist Consensus: global warming is man-made

Postby Weather Bob » Wed Feb 07, 2018 7:43 pm

Cadfael wrote:I'll repost the earth temperature timeline again some other time.

Hey, thanks for posting that, very cool.

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Re: 97% Scientist Consensus: global warming is man-made

Postby Cadfael » Wed Feb 07, 2018 7:52 pm

Yes it is. It's an XKCD creation. He's good.

Here is the original.
Haven't heard of anyone who's disproved any of those numbers.

Edit: And of course by "numbers" I mean the average temperatures for all those years.
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Re: 97% Scientist Consensus: global warming is man-made

Postby Cornelius Gotchberg » Wed Feb 07, 2018 8:43 pm

@Cadfael;

"Haven't heard of anyone who's disproved any of those numbers.''

Maybe you haven't looked in the right places?

Anywho, in 1988 Dr. James Hansen issued 3 future temperature scenarios: (A, B, & C--Hansen, et al, 1988).

A: increase in CO 2 emissions by 1.5% per year
B: constant increase in CO 2 emissions after 2000
C: No increase in CO 2 emissions after 2000

Take a wild guess where observed temperatures have fallen?

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/06/15/ ... 150-wrong/

Brr!!!

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Re: 97% Scientist Consensus: global warming is man-made

Postby Cadfael » Wed Feb 07, 2018 10:34 pm

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Re: 97% Scientist Consensus: global warming is man-made

Postby jonnygothispen » Wed Feb 07, 2018 10:48 pm

I'll help Cornelius out with his next reply, so he doesn't have to exert himself...


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Re: 97% Scientist Consensus: global warming is man-made

Postby Cornelius Gotchberg » Thu Feb 08, 2018 8:12 am

@jonnygothispen;

It's abundantly clear this subject is FAR beyond the processing capacity of your shoe-size I.Q., but one ray of sunshine?

You've earned yerself a coveted "Gotchie!''

https://i.snag.gy/daZMlb.jpg

Not bad fer an idiot!

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Re: 97% Scientist Consensus: global warming is man-made

Postby Cadfael » Thu Feb 08, 2018 8:14 am

Cadfael wrote:Haven't heard of anyone who's disproved any of those numbers.

Edit: And of course by "numbers" I mean the average temperatures for all those years.

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Re: 97% Scientist Consensus: global warming is man-made

Postby jonnygothispen » Thu Feb 08, 2018 8:55 am

Cornelius Gotchberg wrote:
It's abundantly clear ...

The Gotch


... that it's really, really hard for you to understand how 70% more of a gas with heat retention capabilities could possibly make things warmer here even during the onset of an orbit that cools the Earth, all other things considered.

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Re: 97% Scientist Consensus: global warming is man-made

Postby Cornelius Gotchberg » Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:15 am

Isn't that cute!

@jonnygothispen doesn't possess the intellectual wherewithal to discern why the Warmalista Alarmacysts aren't trying to regulate the most prevalent GHG, (H2O/water vapor) and are making paltry efforts to regulate the most heat trapping (CH4/methane).

https://principia-scientific.org/does-c ... trap-heat/

"The deception of children is easy; many of them believe in Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny. When one grows up though one is supposed to stop believing in fantasies.'' (bolds mine)

Run along little man, cartoons are coming on and the adults are talking.

Brrr!!

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Re: 97% Scientist Consensus: global warming is man-made

Postby Cadfael » Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:17 am

There ARE some countries out there that are in touch with reality. Combined with the waning power of the US Empire and the unmistakable (to everyone but us) first signs of global climate change, many of them are taking steps to phase out the dirtiest fuels.

Globally, gas car phaseout gains momentum

FEBRUARY 8, 2018 —First, it was low emission zones – laws restricting where polluting vehicles can go within a town or city. In Europe more than 200 such zones have been established. Now, national governments are poised to take the next step in the fight against air pollution: limits on the sales of gas and diesel vehicles.

In the Netherlands, the government is pushing forward a plan to end the sales of gas and diesel vehicles by 2030. France and Britain have announced similar plans for 2040. In Norway, which has strong targets for getting gas and diesel cars off the road, 2017 was the first year in which electric and hybrid vehicle sales exceeded 50 percent of total sales. India says it will electrify all new vehicles as soon as 2030. With an expanding electric car market, falling battery prices, and an increasing number of regulations, electric vehicles could replace petrol-powered ones faster than anticipated, some experts say.

I think it's possible that our manufacturers and sellers will find economical reasons to phase out gasoline rather than the obvious ones. If the best selling cars are alternative fuel, they'll switch. They'll say "Those guys are idiots but they've got money in their pockets unlike most people here in the US. We might as well give em what they want."

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Re: 97% Scientist Consensus: global warming is man-made

Postby DCB » Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:30 am

The planet is not warming; also, the planet is warming, which is great news!

Who can really say if warming is good or bad? but we know it will be good.

We can't really know if adding greenhouse gases to the atmosphere will warm the planet, but we know for a fact that if there is warming (we don't know if there is) that sunspots are responsible.

Natural disasters aren't evidence of climate change, but it was cold today which proves there is no warming.

Don't bother trying to be rational with someone who is allergic to reason.

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Re: 97% Scientist Consensus: global warming is man-made

Postby Cadfael » Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:34 am

DCB wrote:Don't bother trying to be rational with someone who is allergic to reason.

Nope. Doesn't work. When you manufacture your own facts, you have unlimited references.

But they do expose themselves as idiots with every word so it does serve some purpose to ignore them while they hang themselves.

And it looks like we're about to be dragged into the twenty first century kicking and screaming anyway. We've managed to hand most of our money to the rich, which means about eighty percent of us are so poor that we think an extra dollar and a half per week is a pleasant surprise. Which means we can't afford new cars. Which means the auto manufacturers need to sell overseas. Where the gasoline vehicles are being phased out.

Damn. Maybe there is an invisible hand after all.

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Re: 97% Scientist Consensus: global warming is man-made

Postby BobbyB » Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:18 am

Cadfael wrote:Yes it is. It's an XKCD creation. He's good.

Here is the original.


For any of you who don't know Randall Munroe (XKCD creator) wrote a book, and it's a fun read. It's maybe 50 or 100 short essays answering absurd questions as scientifically accurate as possible.


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