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GOP's Acorn

Postby jjoyce » Mon Oct 01, 2012 10:38 am

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Elections/ ... RN-scandal

At the center of the controversy is Mr. Sproul, a long-time GOP campaign operative, whose firm has faced allegations of questionable tactics in the past, including changing or throwing out registration forms filled out by Democrats.

Quoted by Lee Fang of the nonpartisan Republic Report, former Rep. Chris Cannon (R) of Utah, during a voter fraud hearing, admitted that “the difference between ACORN and Sproul is that ACORN doesn't throw away or change registration documents after they have been filled out.”

Mr. Sproul has worked for a string of Republican presidential campaigns, including Mitt Romney’s. He was recommended to the Florida GOP by the National Republican Committee. Until being fired Tuesday, Sproul’s company had received $1.3 million from Republicans, including nearly $700,000 from the Florida Republican Party.

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Re: GOP's Acorn

Postby Detritus » Mon Oct 01, 2012 11:47 am

Another minor difference from ACORN that Cannon forgot to mention is that there is no evidence ACORN engaged in voter registration fraud, unlike Sproul's organization.

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Re: GOP's Acorn

Postby acereraser » Mon Oct 01, 2012 1:48 pm

Colorado state GOP spent half their yearly budget with Strategic Allied Consulting. At long last, the GOP proves widespread voter registration fraud is not a myth.

That Soros is worse'n the debil.

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Re: GOP's Acorn

Postby snoqueen » Mon Oct 01, 2012 7:52 pm

Republicans defrauding each other. Unthinkable.

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Re: GOP's Acorn

Postby pjbogart » Mon Oct 01, 2012 9:43 pm

I think a lot of Americans are still confused as to the allegations against ACORN and the term "voter fraud" is batted about quite a bit when the term "voter registration fraud" is actually the appropriate description. ACORN hired minimum wage workers, often unemployed non-politically interested people to register voters in large cities. ACORN workers were given financial incentives to turn in as many registrations as possible and that seemed to be their undoing. Lazy workers, interested in a paycheck but not so much in registering voters, filled out registration cards by copying information from phone books, simply made up names, or in one of the more infamous instances filled out registrations for Dallas Cowboy players. This created huge headaches for local clerks who had incomplete registrations (of course, you can't simply guess at either the SSN or DL# of Tony Romo) and so the story broke.

But ACORN was never accused of voter fraud, as is often alleged. For voter fraud to occur, Mickey Mouse would need to show up and attempt to vote. ACORN's problem was hiring lazy people and offering them financial incentive to cheat... but they weren't cheating voters, they were cheating ACORN.

The situation Republicans are now facing is quite a bit more sinister. There appears to be conspiracy involved between employer and employee. There may be instances where registered Democrats had their registration tampered with, which if done successfully would prevent them from voting on election day in States that lack same day registration. It's almost impossible to gauge the damage until election day when we get the reports of disenfranchisement.

And the principal in this situation, Nathan Sproul, is no stranger to allegations of impropriety. Reports are that the Sproul actually created a new company, Strategic Allied Consulting, at the RNC's request in order to mask his involvement.

I think the solution here is to revamp voting laws so that they are consistent nationwide. If that includes voter ID, so be it, but it must also include same day registration so that no voter can be disenfranchised by a fraudulent registration which changes their address shortly before an election, effectively preventing them from voting.

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Re: GOP's Acorn

Postby Stu Levitan » Mon Oct 01, 2012 9:56 pm

From the chickens-coming-home-to-roost file: This scandal has forced GOP to shut down all voter registration activities in Florida, N Carolina, Colorado and two other battleground swing states. The final weeks of voter registration, and they have no activity in five swing states. Sweet!

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Re: GOP's Acorn

Postby pjbogart » Mon Oct 01, 2012 10:26 pm

Stu Levitan wrote:From the chickens-coming-home-to-roost file: This scandal has forced GOP to shut down all voter registration activities in Florida, N Carolina, Colorado and two other battleground swing states. The final weeks of voter registration, and they have no activity in five swing states. Sweet!


None of those states are "same day registration" States. Florida and Colorado deadlines are October 9th, North Carolina deadline is October 12th.

They only lost a week or so. How much damage did they do before that?


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