johnfajardohenry wrote:FWIW, Enco needs to keep running too. I was at the International Machine Tool Show in Chicago 2 years ago and there was a Chinese company selling a full size mill for under $5,000. I thought it was a mistake or a miscalculation so I spoke with the people in the booth. Not very well as they had little English, but they assured me that if I gave them $4,995 I could take it home with me. Harbor Freight has similar mills for under $2,000. Floor standing, cast iron 2 HP. Might not be suitable for production use but will be fine for most toolroom & maintenance operations.
The chinese are notorious for swapping out materials mid run. Or once the contract/deposit, changing timeline/materials/etc.
I just watched a bird take it's first attempt at flapping its wings.
You mentioned harbor freight junk. Yeah, it is. So are most chinese junk. But this is their entrance into other, more lucrative markets other than their coolie monkey labor.
I listened to an interview today where it was stated that manufacturing in the US is 20% higher than in other places. Yes, the cost of labor was taken out of it. It was all the other costs put into the cost of manufacturing a product by the us goobermint and their leftist eco clueless.
http://www.industryweek.com/articles/th ... 26000.aspx
There was a time, not that long ago, when the average person stopped paying taxes (income, ss, property, sales, auto and everything else) around the end of February. Now it takes until June.
There was a time, not that long ago, when you could buy a house, including the lot, for $20,000. Much of the increased cost is from regulation, zoning, permitting delays and so on.
Maybe we could address some of that?
Men/women/its, now we are actually able to discuss things that actually have something to do with what counts to most Americans.
why have things changed in the US since the 1970s?
I remember my neighbor was a house painter and he could support his family of four, had a ranch style house, and wife that worked at home. Why can't house painters do this anymore?
Maybe we could find some way to get people some useful skills? I know a man in Chicago that has openings for 6 mechanics. They have been open for more than 9 months now, he can't find anyone qualified. He pays $70,000/yr plus all the overtime they can handle. Good benefits too.
The kids have been brainwashed into 'if you work with your hands, you're 'uneducated', so get a 4 year degree" BS by leftist unionist teachers/professors. So how are all those womens studies grads doing these days? Got them some sex in school I'd guess, but now what? That doesn't pay student loans.......
Can't tell a person what they don't want to hear.....