So can anyone doubt we are led by a fascist pig?

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Re: So can anyone doubt we are led by a fascist pig?

Postby Cornbread » Mon Jul 16, 2012 10:46 pm

Someone is here trying to have a factual discussion:

It's not whether or not I think something is a good idea, or you think something is a good idea, or bart simpson thinks something is a good idea. Our (former) great nation was founded with a strict separation of powers by the three, co-equal branches.
Zerobama using the stroke of his pen to change a constitutionally written and signed into law law, is, well, dare I say, 'fascism"?

One person cannot do this, no matter if it is the left's beloved, godlike messiah obama.


And readers, please note the responses.

This is the New Democrat Party.

BTT....

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Re: So can anyone doubt we are led by a fascist pig?

Postby Detritus » Mon Jul 16, 2012 10:56 pm

fisticuffs wrote:Image

Actually, I believe that's a pre-Fascist pig. Looks like a WWI-era helmet and facial hair. Fascism before it was fascionable?

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Re: So can anyone doubt we are led by a fascist pig?

Postby Slick Willy » Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:41 pm

So I hear that Obama removed something that Clinton signed into law. That's right, Clinton. You remember Clinton, right? Clinton is a Democrat, too, and with Obama being a Democrat, he's removing something that another Democrat (Clinton, in case you missed it) signed into law. That Obama is a real maverick with rebelling against his own party and stuff! That must make cornbread's argument legit, since he's complaining about a Democrat removing another Democrat's (Clinton) law. Obama surely is a Fascist pig who eats kimchi (fermented vegetables) at Brewers games.

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Re: So can anyone doubt we are led by a fascist pig?

Postby rabble » Tue Jul 17, 2012 9:53 am

I've heard more than one Republican complain that China taxes their corporations less than we do and that's why we can't get no jobs here.

So we have to be more like China.

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Re: So can anyone doubt we are led by a fascist pig?

Postby Cornbread » Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:21 pm

Slick Willy wrote:So I hear that Obama removed something that Clinton signed into law. That's right, Clinton.

Ain't that interesting? OK well not so much as history rarely is. What is almost always more interesting is how people use tiny pieces of 'history' to further their own warped point of view. Or just lie.

Didja see that egyptians were chanting "monica, monica, monica" at hillary a few days ago? I thought with the immaculation of obama the world would all love us?

OK, back to welfare reform.....didn't clinton sign the REPUBLICAN controlled Congress' welfare reform into law because he was doubtful going into his re-election? Damned sexual assaults!

That Obama is a real maverick

Yup, the only hard core socialists/communist inspired national politicians are, well, a handful. So I guess that does make ol communist inspred obama a real maverick, going against the grain of individual freedom and individual liberty.

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Don't feel strange that I used the "c word". There really are communists. And there are indeed socialists, even fascists. Some even are in european government positions. Most americans fail to realize that.

with rebelling against his own party

Not rebelling--the Leftist Chicago Democrat Machine IS the New Democrat Party.

This is why people are leaving the former democrat party.
This is why zerobama has to use lies, fabrications, and attacks to gain any 'support'.

Obama surely is a Fascist pig who eats kimchi

I sort of agree with you as sometimes there's not a lot of difference between the fascist pig and the communist pig and the socialist pig.

To the working man and woman, pigs are pigs.
So maybe obama is just a pig? I know barney frank is.

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Re: So can anyone doubt we are led by a fascist pig?

Postby Cornbread » Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:25 pm

rabble wrote:I've heard more than one Republican complain that China taxes their corporations less than we do and that's why we can't get no jobs here.

That's only one small portion of why manufacturing jobs have left the US.
Others are:
1. government regulations
2. legal expenses
3. employee costs

Wow, just think, the New Democrat Party pretty much is behind all those impediments to having good paying jobs with benefits stay here, in this (formerly) great nation.

Do any of you leftist democrats ever connect any dots?

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Re: So can anyone doubt we are led by a fascist pig?

Postby fennel » Tue Jul 17, 2012 8:02 pm

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now getting health coverage??
Billionaires are broke!

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Re: So can anyone doubt we are led by a fascist pig?

Postby Stella_Guru » Wed Jul 18, 2012 12:57 pm

Cornbread wrote:That's only one small portion of why manufacturing jobs have left the US.
Others are:
1. government regulations
2. legal expenses
3. employee costs


You fail to mention the declining moral of U.S. factory worker; the net effect on the human character where big business substitutes the specialized machine and the assembly line for the craftsman, offers not much more than subsistence wages, and converts a secure retirement pension into a 401K gamble. In return for the regimentation and coercion, the helpless cog is supposed to stand aside while the imperial class enjoys the fat of the land.

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Re: So can anyone doubt we are led by a fascist pig?

Postby wack wack » Wed Jul 18, 2012 1:15 pm

Cornbread wrote:
rabble wrote:I've heard more than one Republican complain that China taxes their corporations less than we do and that's why we can't get no jobs here.

That's only one small portion of why manufacturing jobs have left the US.
Others are:
1. government regulations
2. legal expenses
3. employee costs

Wow, just think, the New Democrat Party pretty much is behind all those impediments to having good paying jobs with benefits stay here, in this (formerly) great nation.

Do any of you leftist democrats ever connect any dots?


OK, let's connect the dots:

1. government regulations - in other words, Republicans want to be allowed to shit in anyone's water at any time in order to maximize profits.

2. legal expenses - in other words, Republicans want to be completely free and clear from prosecution when people get sick from Republican shit in the water.

3. employee costs - In other words, Republicans want to be able to pay as little as inhumanely possible to maximize profits, even if it means their employees can't afford to go to the doctor when they get sick from Republican shit in the water.

In other words, Republicans want 100% profit with 0% responsibility. In other words, infantile.

The greatness of this nation has very little to do with profits, and the downward spiral will continue until someone on the right figures this out.

I don't doubt that your leader might be a fascist pig, Cornbread. You've made it quite clear in your time here that Obama is not your leader.

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Re: So can anyone doubt we are led by a fascist pig?

Postby ilikebeans » Wed Jul 18, 2012 1:35 pm

wack wack wrote:In other words, Republicans want 100% profit with 0% responsibility. In other words, infantile.

See also: assholish, douchey, prickish, selfish, greedy, self-centered, arrogant, conceited, petty, contemptible, inconsiderate, corrupt, heinous, loathsome, malicious, repugnant, repulsive, vile, low, malevolent, revolting, wicked...

... and, despite how loaded a term it is, evil. I'm sorry, but if you're actively influencing public policy to benefit yourself and your friends while knowing that it's going to screw a sizable portion of the rest of society, you're hands-down evil.

Now, to be clear, I'm certainly not saying every Republican can be classified this way. But with every passing day I'm seeing more and more of the Republican leadership that can, and it's an incredibly disturbing trend.

The moderate conservatives no longer have any sway inside the GOP.

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Re: So can anyone doubt we are led by a fascist pig?

Postby Henry Vilas » Wed Jul 18, 2012 1:44 pm

ilikebeans wrote:The moderate conservatives no longer have any sway inside the GOP.

Moderates are put on the RINO watch list, kept by such conservative orgainizations as the Club for Growth (presently running anti-Thompson and anti-Hovde ads in Wisconsin) and the Young Conservatives of America.

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Re: So can anyone doubt we are led by a fascist pig?

Postby Cornbread » Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:17 pm

Stella_Guru wrote:You fail to mention the declining moral of U.S. factory worker;

???????
The decline in morality has been happening since, well, the 1960s, but I'm sure each generation before that would say it happened right after theirs. What made the 60s the era is demographically, the most spoiled generation all came of age at once.

the net effect on the human character where big business substitutes the specialized machine and the assembly line for the craftsman,

Either you have some (leftist) edjumacation and/or some (leftist) has bent your ear. See a trend? ;)
Look up "taylorism" and get back to us.
And if it wouldn't have been for that and the associated technological advancements, only, how you leftists say, "the rich" would have been able to afford to buy a car....oh, and pretty much everything else.

Do you have hand made kitchen cabinets in your kitchen?
Why not? Don't want to spend 35K? Aren't rolls royces hand made? etc.

BTW, you (and most leftists) would be amazed at the number of small job shops (working man/woman's term--look it up) there are that employ machinery of all sorts, from fanuc/cnc to well, even a forklift. Do you know how many people have been replaced by a forklift? Or a bulldozer? Or a water pump? Or a tractor? Or a vending machine?

offers not much more than subsistence wages,

Please get out of madison and look around. If you have a degree/training in welding or CNC or factory 'maintenance' or hvac, you will be in great demand. If you have a women's studies, or english literature, or gender studies or arts degree, well, maybe you can sue someone and make a living that way?
OK, if you're a lesbian with a gay studies degree, go to a catholic law school and sue them for not giving you contraception. :lol:
That sounds like a good career move.

Wasn't the "wise latina", supreme court justice sotomayor's first case after her affirmative action law degree was suing someone for gender discrimination or some other leftist BS? Get a law degree and start suing people. Yup, that's the new american way I guess.....

the imperial class

I don't think i've mentioned the obamas or the rest of the new democrat party leadership.

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Re: So can anyone doubt we are led by a fascist pig?

Postby gargantua » Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:15 pm

Stella typed "moral", but it is clear from the context she meant "morale", Emily LaTella.

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Re: So can anyone doubt we are led by a fascist pig?

Postby Stella_Guru » Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:35 pm

Cornbread wrote:Do you have hand made kitchen cabinets in your kitchen?
Why not? Don't want to spend 35K? Aren't rolls royces hand made? etc. Do you know how many people have been replaced by a forklift? Or a bulldozer? Or a water pump? Or a tractor?

Well actually, I do have hand made kitchen cabinets. I made them myself, for my house I built by myself, for about $35K total. And I do have a tractor, two in fact. I figured it is better for a tractor to take all of the abuse instead of my back when working the soil. There is no question that machines have more power than humans. Also there can be no question but that they have watered down or annihilated many of the most ancient, most fascinating and creative human skills, broken up established institutions, pushed masses of "hands" into factories and herded droves of anonymous footlose wanderers from urban slum to urban slum. Only the historian of the future will be able to assess the net effect of the machine age on human character and on man's joy in being and his will to live. But yeah, my aching back....

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Re: So can anyone doubt we are led by a fascist pig?

Postby Cornbread » Thu Jul 19, 2012 7:06 am

wack wack wrote:1. government regulations - in other words, Republicans want to be allowed to shit in anyone's water at any time in order to maximize profits.


Do you ever think complex thoughts or is this some HS joke?
But to the left, if it's a vague, general slogan, it's good enough.

So republicans want to poison water, get dirty air, throw grandmothers off a cliff, put chipmunks in blenders and feed them to the poor because republicans want everyone to be poor so they can cut free stuff to them, so they'll all die.
Then they can be left to RULE THE WORLD!!!! just the republicans and however many chipmunks are left.

2. legal expenses - in other words, Republicans want to be completely free and clear from prosecution when people get sick from Republican shit in the water.


OK, so that silly leftist democrat lie about Gov Walker waging a war on women by not letting them get paid as much as men, what was that all about?

3. employee costs - In other words, Republicans want to be able to pay as little as inhumanely possible to maximize profits,


The "employee costs" I alluded to was all the costs associated with hiring and retaining--and letting go--an employee.
Ever wonder why WI uses so many temp agencies, where workers have very little rights?

I don't know what 'republican business owners' you're talking about, but a lot of employees working in manufacturing in the fox valley, and outside of the city of milwaukee make very very good money. I don't think a professional welder would work for, say $7.25/hour (I assume that's the "inhumane" hourly rate you refer to as that's min wage). They'd go somewhere else and make $18/hr for just walking in the door.

even if it means their employees can't afford to go to the doctor when they get sick from Republican shit in the water.

So republicans don't drink water between putting whole families of chipmunks in blenders?

In other words, Republicans want 100% profit with 0% responsibility.

Silly, just silly. How old are you? Serious question.

The greatness of this nation has very little to do with profits,

You're correct--in a tiny way.
The greatness of this nation is all about FREEDOM, and one cannot have individual freedom without economic freedom.

If we are free to trade our goods/services/work for whatever we can get for it, then that's the basis for freedom. It's called "the market".

Government and their out of touch, ministers, boards, councils, czars, lawyers should not decide what any exchange rate an individual should get if they want to sell something (a good or their hourly work) or buy something (a TV, a Hummer, french fries, etc.).

Government is at the center of the universe for all leftists.
It's who leftists are.

I'd type more, but I have to go and make an evil hourly profit.
Too bad I couldn't just sit here and get government checks, live in government housing, eat government supplied food, use government transit to go to a government health exchange ran by government health insurance. Oh well, maybe I can call the government and have them go after the person that hired me so I can do all the above?


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