Henry Vilas wrote:Then why haven't other states adopted such a regulation?
You should spend more time reading the link and less time trolling.
Peanutbutter wrote:Does anyone really think that Mississippi passed this onerous regulation to protect the health of woman?
Requiring a doctor to have admitting privileges to a local hospital is considered "onerous"?
Henry Vilas wrote:Or is it just a craven move to restrict access to a legal medical procedure?
Peanutbutter wrote:Huckleby wrote:Mississippi has used regulation to completely end legal abortion in the state. Can you dispute this statement?
This same law has been enacted in nine states other than Mississippi. Are you really claiming that abortion is "completely ended" in ten different states?
If that is true, then hopefully Wisconsin will become number eleven.
Huckleby wrote:I have no problem with your opinion on abortion, I am sypathetic to pro-life principles.
In 1967, when the service was established in New York City... It was estimated that criminal abortions exceeded legal ones by a ratio of about 100 to 1.... The largest percentage of abortion deaths were among women aged 35-39 with five or six children.
Meade wrote:Specifically, which pro-life principles are you sympathetic to? Thanks.
Peanutbutter wrote: "This is John Crow all over again!"
There is nothing racist about this law.
Peanutbutter wrote: "Abortion is banned in Mississippi"
No, it isn't.
Peanutbutter wrote: "No other state has enacted such a onerous law!"
Actually, nine other states have done the same exact thing.
Peanutbutter wrote:"If we regulate medical procedures then people will seek out unregulated medical procedures!"
Only if they choose to. Hopefully some women will instead choose to not kill their own baby.
Huckleby wrote:Peanutbutter wrote:Only if they choose to. Hopefully some women will instead choose to not kill their own baby.
OK, fine, this is the thinking from the 1950's.
Feel free to argue your position, but enough with the dishonest pretense that regulations in Mississipppi aren't efforts to controvene the constitution and end legal abortion.
Huckleby wrote:OK, fine, this is the thinking from the 1950's.
A federal judge will decide Wednesday whether Mississippi's only abortion clinic can continue to stay open under a temporary order or whether it should permanently shut its doors under a new state law.
Since the law went into effect, the Jackson Women's Health Organization has remained open under a federal judge's temporary order blocking enforcement of the law until Wednesday's hearing. The clinic is trying to comply with the law, according to owner Diane Derzis, but it has been hampered by red tape and the cumbersome application process to get hospital privileges.
That forced the clinic to seek a permanent injunction allowing it to stay open while it fights the law, which Derzis and other opponents say violates Roe v. Wade, the 1973 Supreme Court decision that struck down many state laws that restricted abortions.
On Wednesday, the federal judge will decide whether the state of Mississippi can begin a 60- to 90-day administrative process to begin closing the clinic for noncompliance with the new state law. The clinic, which has been in operation for eight years, says this would cause it irreparable harm and could result in its permanent closure.
Mississippi is one of the toughest states for the abortion-rights movement. Its laws require a 24-hour waiting period, as well as parental consent if the patient seeking an abortion is a minor. Seven other states require abortion providers to have hospital privileges, but no other state requires that an abortion provider be an OB/GYN, according to the Guttmacher Institute in Washington, a sexual and reproductive health organization.
"All of that is wrapped in that cloak of conservative religion," said W. Martin Wiseman, director of the Stennis Institute of Government at Mississippi State University.
...the real intent of the newly elected Republican majority was to end abortion in the state, not to improve women's health care.
"I love that it's white old men making those statements," she said. "This is not about safety. This is about politics, and politics do not need to be in our uterus."
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