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Races for the Senate, U.S. House, etc. and other issues of national importance.
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Re: Question for Cornbread, Ned, etc.

Postby pjbogart » Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:39 pm

Personally, I think it's kind of cute when people say "Democrat Party." First off it lets you know that you're talking to the kind of person who thinks that Rush Limbaugh is "news." Secondly, the term is used by everyone within the Republican Party all the way up to Boehner and McConnell, which tells me that it's a coordinated effort and it kind of boggles my mind that they'd bother coordinating such idiocy. So basically, every time someone says "Democrat Party" I'm reminded why I consider myself a Democrat.

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Re: Question for Cornbread, Ned, etc.

Postby DCB » Tue Jun 19, 2012 5:25 pm

wack wack wrote:
Meade wrote:
massimo wrote:You gotta search with the quotes.

"Democratic party" = 37.3M
"Democrat party" = 3.3M

Not that it matters. At all.


I see. Okay, that does make it apples to apples, doesn't it?
And not that it matters at all, but I notice the usage trend, over the last six years, has been away from "Democratic Party" and towards "Democrat Party".

Hope that doesn't hurt anyone's sensitive progressive feelings.


Hmmm, started right about the time the Republican party became completely unhinged. Imagine that.

1. Embrace a policy of consistently denying reality at all levels, from global warming down to meaningless details
2. ???
3. Profit!

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Re: Question for Cornbread, Ned, etc.

Postby snoqueen » Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:50 pm

1. Embrace a policy of consistently denying reality at all levels, from global warming down to meaningless details
2. ???
3. Profit!


I think it runs more like this:

1. Embrace a policy of consistently denying reality at all levels, from global warming down to meaningless details

2. Profit!

3. People get buyers' remorse when they see the effects of the program they voted for.

And after that, we find out if there's enough left of the structure of democracy so the people can back themselves out, or not. I believe that's an open question, and the powers running the show want to make sure there's no way out past a certain point. I don't know if we've passed that point or not, but we're close.

Also, I think they know exactly what they're doing, they are well aware they're playing the people, and they don't give a damn if they are.

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Re: Question for Cornbread, Ned, etc.

Postby Meade » Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:08 pm

nutria wrote:Also, imagine an alternate present where slave labor is still legal in the US. Which of today's major parties would be the larger supporter of so anti-union and pro-business a concept as slave labor?

Slave labor is not a pro-business concept. Nor is it pro-business behavior. Also, labor unions tend to provide management with more reliable and efficient sources of labor when the union is well-organized, free of corruption, strike-eschewing, and truly representative of its members.

In the last century, you will find slave labor practiced in countries that label themselves "socialist", "national socialist", "people's republic", "republic", "communist", "collective", "commune", "socialist workers' republic", socialist republic", "people's revolutionary", "soviet", socialist soviet", and "social democrat".

It was the Federalists, in the late 1700's, who disparagingly named the anti-Federalists "Democrats". It was a slur and meant to be a slur. That is one reason why slave-holders like Jefferson and Madison, et al. called themselves "Republicans". It was only later that historians used the term "Democratic" as a modifier to describe Jefferson's anti-Federalist party as the "Democratic Republican Party".

By the way, Jefferson never gave up his opposition to the formation of a national bank but Madison, while president in 1816, changed his position and set up the national bank, the first Bank of the United States. He had a war with Britain to wage - the so-called second American revolution - and funding it was imperative to victory.

Back to the issue of calling the modern party of Democrats the "Democrat Party". Yes, it's a tweak. Yes, it's disparaging. But my advise to Democrats is the same as my advice to those who form the Tea Party and are disparagingly and often, out of hostility to homosexuals, called the "Tea-bagger Party": Own the slur. Adopt it as the name you call yourselves. Instead of getting all indignant and huffy, as snoqueen does upthread here, redirect the power of the insult. Flip it.

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Re: Question for Cornbread, Ned, etc.

Postby Bland » Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:26 pm

Meade wrote:Own the slur. Adopt it as the name you call yourselves. Instead of getting all indignant and huffy, as snoqueen does upthread here, redirect the power of the insult. Flip it.


Larry's Lesson of the Day:"It's OK to insult and use slurs when addressing those with whom you disagree. If they want you to stop, they'll adopt the names you assign them."

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Re: Question for Cornbread, Ned, etc.

Postby Meade » Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:30 pm

pjbogart wrote:So basically, every time someone says "Democrat Party" I'm reminded why I consider myself a Democrat.

Good on you, peej.

Taking offense to having your party called the "Democrat Party" would be akin to girls out in California getting all bent out of shape because the Beach Boys didn't write "I wish they all could be Californian girls."

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Re: Question for Cornbread, Ned, etc.

Postby bdog » Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:33 pm

Damn, you all got back to the normal circle jerk pretty quickly!

Guess the healing is complete.

Carry on.

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Re: Question for Cornbread, Ned, etc.

Postby Talon Newsman » Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:33 pm

I like using "Democrat" as an adjective and a slur because it's a nice throwback to the days when we conservatives could use "Jew" as an adjective and a slur.

Remember when we used to rant about the "Jew-owned liberal media"? Same idea...

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Re: Question for Cornbread, Ned, etc.

Postby Cornbread » Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:43 pm

Meade wrote:Originally, "democratic" was a modifier of "republican". As I'm sure you know, the first Republicans were Democratic-Republicans. They were opposed to the Federalists who proposed a national bank. Federalists allied themselves with Britain against France.

Democratic-Republicans favored states' rights and yeoman farmers and planters (anyone owning 20 or more slaves) over bankers, industrialists, merchants, and investors. For Democratic-Republicans, republicanism meant being anti-monarchical. Eventually, the Democratic-Republican party split, becoming the pro-slavery Democratic Party and the abolitionist National Republican Party.

Calling the modern Democratic Party the "Democrat Party" is just a way of reminding Democrats of their pro-slavery tendencies - something they are (with good reason) very sensitive about.


Very nice post. You truly seem to be a conservative. :D

But I also use the word "democrat" before "party" because it's a fluking noun. "Democratic" is roughly synonymous with voting, so using "democratic party" means "voting party". If it's a noun, as in the case with a "democrat[ic] party", then each person that votes for a democratic is then a democratic. :lol:

What's the difference between a "democratic election" and a "democrat election"?

All this BS by the democratics is just silly, all in an attempt to aspire to be what they were only a very, very long time ago, the party of the working man, woman and family. I think the democrat party seems to be made up of absentee ballots and grammar grannies anyway. You'd think the latter would know better.

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Re: Question for Cornbread, Ned, etc.

Postby Cornbread » Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:47 pm

Prof. Wagstaff wrote:pro-slavery....It's in The Constitution people!

Is it right next to "abortion" somewhere? I ask because I can't find "abortion" anywhere.

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Re: Question for Cornbread, Ned, etc.

Postby Madcity Expat » Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:53 pm

Cornbread wrote:
Meade wrote:Originally, "democratic" was a modifier of "republican". As I'm sure you know, the first Republicans were Democratic-Republicans. They were opposed to the Federalists who proposed a national bank. Federalists allied themselves with Britain against France.

Democratic-Republicans favored states' rights and yeoman farmers and planters (anyone owning 20 or more slaves) over bankers, industrialists, merchants, and investors. For Democratic-Republicans, republicanism meant being anti-monarchical. Eventually, the Democratic-Republican party split, becoming the pro-slavery Democratic Party and the abolitionist National Republican Party.

Calling the modern Democratic Party the "Democrat Party" is just a way of reminding Democrats of their pro-slavery tendencies - something they are (with good reason) very sensitive about.


Very nice post. You truly seem to be a conservative. :D

But I also use the word "democrat" before "party" because it's a fluking noun. "Democratic" is roughly synonymous with voting, so using "democratic party" means "voting party". If it's a noun, as in the case with a "democrat[ic] party", then each person that votes for a democratic is then a democratic. :lol:

What's the difference between a "democratic election" and a "democrat election"?

All this BS by the democratics is just silly, all in an attempt to aspire to be what they were only a very, very long time ago, the party of the working man, woman and family. I think the democrat party seems to be made up of absentee ballots and grammar grannies anyway. You'd think the latter would know better.


Lemme guess... Cornbread=Meade, yes?

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Re: Question for Cornbread, Ned, etc.

Postby Meade » Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:55 pm

Larry's Lesson of the Day:"It's OK to insult and use slurs when addressing those with whom you disagree. If they want you to stop, they'll adopt the names you assign them."

A lesson apparently not needed by someone who goes by the name "bland".

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Re: Question for Cornbread, Ned, etc.

Postby Meade » Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:58 pm

Madcity Expat wrote:Lemme guess... Cornbread=Meade, yes?

No. I do like Cornbread though. And also cornbread. But I'm on a low carbohydrate high vodka and bacon diet. Thanks for asking.

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Re: Question for Cornbread, Ned, etc.

Postby Cornbread » Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:01 pm

Mean Scenester wrote:like you beating-off at the mouth....your conservative ass masters...wa passel of dinks y'all are.
Dink.


Another wonderful post by a leftist democratic.

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Re: Question for Cornbread, Ned, etc.

Postby Cornbread » Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:06 pm

Meade wrote:Hope that doesn't hurt anyone's sensitive progressive feelings.

they do seem to bruise like grapes....when they aren't screaming at you, cussin you out, calling you names, demanding your banishment, begging others to shun you, etc.

I think that's the leftist democratics' version of how they celebrate diversity. I dunno. Don't ax me to splain it.


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