Rhode Island bill guarantees rights for homeless

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Rhode Island bill guarantees rights for homeless

Postby jonnygothispen » Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:16 pm

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/06/ ... RY20120613
Rhode Island's governor is expected to sign into law the first "Homeless Bill of Rights" in the United States as early as next week, formally banning discrimination against homeless people and affirming their equal access to jobs, housing and services.

Among other steps, the Rhode Island law would guarantee homeless people the right to use public sidewalks, parks and transportation as well as public buildings, like anyone else "without discrimination on the basis of his or her housing status."

It guarantees a "reasonable expectation of privacy" with respect to personal belongings similar to that of people who have homes...

...Roughly 643,000 people are homeless on any given night in the United States, experts say.

"This just affirms the rights and existence of the unhoused in America."

"You're just looked down on because you're carrying your life on your back," said John Joyce of Providence, who was homeless for three years...
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Re: Rhode Island bill guarantees rights for homeless

Postby Cornbread » Mon Jun 18, 2012 8:28 pm

Actually a lot of indians are homeless too. ;)
But like most homeless, they're that way because they just want to continue to drink or be in service of whatever higher power they're under, say crack. Heroin has been making a good comeback, populating the alleys, parks and cheap one night hotels with another generation of junkies. Meth is always good, but it doesn't lead to homeless as much as it does jail/prison, so they don't get homeless, they just transfer homes to a government one or dead.
Just my experiences.

formally banning discrimination against homeless people and affirming their equal access to jobs, housing and services


I see that the author of this bill and the dork that signed it have absolutely no idea about the homeless. But if it makes them feel special to do that, I guess that's their gig. But I've never been to the smallest state in this constitutional republic, so maybe their homeless are different.

Got any details on how the homeless are discriminated against in jobs?

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Re: Rhode Island bill guarantees rights for homeless

Postby Rich Schultz » Tue Jun 19, 2012 2:07 am

Jonny, Jonny, Jonny I know you mean well but you are going off message. We have a Democrat in the White House so you are not supposed to use the word "homeless". The correct term is "occupy"
or "camping". When you use a word like "homeless" some people might get the impression that the economy is not "fine". Please wait till Romney is elected then the word "homeless" will once again be available for journalistic use. Thank you for your cooperation.

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Re: Rhode Island bill guarantees rights for homeless

Postby Francis Di Domizio » Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:18 am

Rich Schultz wrote:Jonny, Jonny, Jonny I know you mean well but you are going off message. We have a Democrat in the White House so you are not supposed to use the word "homeless". The correct term is "occupy"
or "camping". When you use a word like "homeless" some people might get the impression that the economy is not "fine". Please wait till Romney is elected then the word "homeless" will once again be available for journalistic use. Thank you for your cooperation.



based on the article, I think the term is actually "unhoused" which is at least better than "differently sheltered".

All in all the bill looks like a nice warm fuzzy law to make people feel better how the homeless are treated, but I don't see much about addressing the actual issues that cause homelessness; which of course would be much more complicated and would mean facing issues that the majority of voters don't always agree on.

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Re: Rhode Island bill guarantees rights for homeless

Postby Cornbread » Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:38 am

Francis Di Domizio wrote:All in all the bill looks like a nice warm fuzzy law to make people feel better how the homeless are treated,

Excellent observation--and accurate IMO.
Just how would someone prove they didn't get a job because they were homeless? Because they didn't get a call back because they didn't have a phone or they didn't get a reply letter because they didn't have an address to mail it to?

And exactly what kinds of services are not available to someone because they are homeless?

One would think there'd be more important things to address, but I guess not to the New Democrat Party.

PROVIDENCE, R.I. -- Mayor Angel Taveras and his staff briefed Governor Chafee, key General Assembly members and Providence's state representatives Monday on Providence's near $30-million deficit and why the city is on the brink of bankruptcy.

http://news.providencejournal.com/break ... ras-b.html


Though smaller than its neighbors, Rhode Island very much bears the stamp of Northeastern politics and governing. It has the third highest level of public employee unionization in the country, 64 percent, behind New York and Connecticut. Its government is among the top 10 in the nation in per capita spending and in the tax burden it imposes on residents, plus the state has one of the least attractive business environments, according to the Tax Foundation.

Rhode Island's long-term obligations compare unfavorably with just about any other state, and that's saying a lot. An evaluation of state finances by the Daily Beast recently ranked Rhode Island the state most likely to go bust because of the combination of its budget deficit, outstanding debt and unfunded pension liabilities relative to economic capacity.

http://www.realclearmarkets.com/article ... 98858.html



They are working on the democrat economic model used by tom barrett--he'll fix record unemployment in his city and third world government school system by building a 100 million two mile trolly and a bridge that has bicycle lanes on it.....

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Re: Rhode Island bill guarantees rights for homeless

Postby Stella_Guru » Wed Jun 20, 2012 12:37 pm

Cornbread wrote:Actually a lot of indians are homeless too. ;)
But like most homeless, they're that way because they just want to continue to drink or be in service of whatever higher power they're under, say crack. Heroin has been making a good comeback, populating the alleys, parks and cheap one night hotels with another generation of junkies. Meth is always good, but it doesn't lead to homeless as much as it does jail/prison, so they don't get homeless, they just transfer homes to a government one or dead.
Just my experiences.
I see that the author of this bill and the dork that signed it have absolutely no idea about the homeless. But if it makes them feel special to do that, I guess that's their gig. But I've never been to the smallest state in this constitutional republic, so maybe their homeless are different.
Got any details on how the homeless are discriminated against in jobs?


What makes you so sure that you and the reactionaries you have lined up with, promoting their cause, will not be finding yourselves joining the legions of footloose wandering homeless out in the cold or heat, or among the missing? Considering the developments in Europe, Asia, and the U.S., an adequate, stable, and secure life, even for those who follow the ruling class directives, is increasingly becoming more difficult. A few depreciated dollars and a batch of non-productive real estate will not go far in a disintegrating society gripped by depression and falling prey to fascism.

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Re: Rhode Island bill guarantees rights for homeless

Postby jessy27 » Fri Jun 29, 2012 11:06 am

Cornbread,
I think the discrimination against the homeless is because they don't have cell
phones. So maybe they should make it a law giving all there home challenged
free cell phones. Probably be cheaper. :lol:

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Re: Rhode Island bill guarantees rights for homeless

Postby jonnygothispen » Tue Jul 03, 2012 4:23 pm

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Re: Rhode Island bill guarantees rights for homeless

Postby Cornbread » Tue Jul 03, 2012 8:19 pm

Stella_Guru wrote:What makes you so sure that you and the reactionaries you have lined up with

Who are these "reactionaries" you speak of?

promoting their cause, will not be finding yourselves joining the legions of footloose wandering homeless out in the cold or heat, or among the missing?

At one point, I was involved with the homeless, so the only thing I think you could be talking about is some post apocalyptic sci fi movie. If that scenario does take place, I'm OK with that as I live in a rural area, have firearms, fishing gear, tools, training and skills.

By far, most of the homeless on the streets are that way by choice--drugs/booze. A smaller percentage are sexual offenders that no one will rent to, on the run, or on parole.

Considering the developments in Europe, Asia, and the U.S., an adequate, stable, and secure life...is increasingly becoming more difficult.

I completely agree. It's a wonderful example of socialism's continued failure, worldwide. The US is more complex, as we've been individualistic in nature and economically more free, but technology, immigration, and politics have doomed us to a downward slide--that has been accelerated with the promise of "equality".....aka more socialism.

A few depreciated dollars and a batch of non-productive real estate will not go far in a disintegrating society gripped by depression and falling prey to fascism.


Excellent post!!! The siren song of fascism is, "we will take care of you". But in exchange for that, you have to give up.....
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Re: Rhode Island bill guarantees rights for homeless

Postby Cornbread » Tue Jul 03, 2012 8:24 pm

jessy27 wrote:Cornbread,
I think the discrimination against the homeless is because they don't have cell phones. So maybe they should make it a law giving all there home challenged free cell phones. Probably be cheaper. :lol:


:lol: Yup. And don't forget we now have a "right" to have a home, so give them homes too. Are LCD televisions and internet rights yet or will that be next year? ;)

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Re: Rhode Island bill guarantees rights for homeless

Postby jonnygothispen » Thu Jul 05, 2012 11:59 am

Most of the homeless are mentally ill. A large number do drink to alleviate the pain of mental illness, loss etc. But there's no easy way to determine the exact %-age. I'll "step way out on a limb" and say that almost none of the homeless are homeless by "choice." Claiming that they are homeless by choice is just a cop-out from looking at it more seriously.

Many are fully capable people who have no chance at employment because they have no address, no phone, no way to shower or even a reliable to get to work. It's a demonstrable fact, if you've the experience of being around the the homeless, that most are decent people deserving of at least the chance to improve their lives. That's not something we'll see in a wealth redistribution to the top economy that's bankrupted the whole nation, and really the world since American banks own much of the world banking system.

Cornholio, since you support welfare for the top, to the people who created this recession, why not give people at the bottom a chance to work their way out of whatever mess they're in too?


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