Race in politics

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Race in politics

Postby Shorty » Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:38 pm

Kind of an interesting article about the importance of race in politics. Also, it ranks the states as to how racist they are.

A Harvard researcher says W. Virginia it the most racist state in the USA. Louisiana, Pennsylvania, Mississippi, Kentucky, Michigan, Ohio, South Carolina, Alabama, and New Jersey rounded out the top 10 most-racist areas.

The least racist are Utah, Hawaii, Colorado, New Mexico, Idaho, Washington DC, Minnesota, Oregon, Montana, and Wyoming.

So in general, the most racists states are ones with high minority population, and the least are mostly white, with a few exceptions. Maybe that's not too surprising.

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Re: Race in politics

Postby Cornbread » Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:12 pm

Shorty wrote:A Harvard researcher

I have no idea what a researcher is. Is that the avowed socialist obama's buddy, skip gates?

Ya know, white people only think of themselves.....

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Wasn't that the white racist cop that socialist obama accused of being "stupid" and others of beating up gates?

Maybe that's not too surprising.


Nope it really isn't. :D

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Re: Race in politics

Postby jman111 » Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:41 pm

Cornbread wrote:I have no idea what a researcher is.

I'm shocked.
Just...shocked.

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Re: Race in politics

Postby snoqueen » Mon Jun 11, 2012 10:21 pm

So in general, the most racists states are ones with high minority population, and the least are mostly white, with a few exceptions.


Well, not exactly. Here's the Google research paper that studied race in politics as discussed above:

http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~sste ... dowitz.pdf

Among other things, the researchers found the following:

The numbers imply that racial animus is
highest when African-Americans make up between 20 and 30 percent of the population.


Obama loses votes in media markets with higher racially charged search.
The relationship is highly statistically significant (t = −7.36), with the Google proxy explaining
a substantial percentage of the variation in change in Democratic presidential support...


The author says his study shows Obama's race gave a "country-wide effect of 5.0 percentage points" in terms of votes lost. (page 18) This is larger than the effect found by other researchers and by using other methodology, but it's still a lot and, presumably, hasn't gone away since the last election.

Worth a click for those who like to dig into the details, though I'm not 100% convinced of all the findings.

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Re: Race in politics

Postby green union terrace chair » Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:48 pm

White people vote like this.
Black people vote like this.

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Re: Race in politics

Postby Rich Schultz » Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:33 am

Vermont is the most liberal state in the union. Also the whitest.
Liberals talk it, but they don't walk it.

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Re: Race in politics

Postby wack wack » Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:29 am

jman111 wrote:
Cornbread wrote:I have no idea what a researcher is.

I'm shocked.
Just...shocked.


The Great Cornbread Conundrum: "I don't know what a researcher is, how can I find out?"

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Re: Race in politics

Postby snoqueen » Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:51 am

Vermont is the most liberal state in the union. Also the whitest.


Or possibly that flavor of liberalism tends to take root where people are similar in certain ways and believe others around them share their values, so they don't see as much reason to feel threatened, get highly competitive for supposedly scarce resources, or set up defensive arrangements. Maybe more research could show the conditions where liberalism is strongest, same as it suggests where racism is strongest.

Maybe liberalism only works well where most people are similar, for that matter. I don't know, I'm just taking the information you tossed out and thinking it over. Making up explanations and acting on them without testing them is poor practice.

Personally, I take a historical view. Just as the slavery and war history of the Deep South gives us a certain kind of gun culture (discussed a couple months ago), a wide strip of blue states across the northern part of the US from New England to the Pacific Northwest follows immigration patterns of white settlement and suggests a historical and cultural explanation.

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Re: Race in politics

Postby Marvell » Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:50 am

Rich Schultz wrote:Vermont is the most liberal state in the union. Also the whitest.
Liberals talk it, but they don't walk it.


Wait - Rich Schultz is going to pompously hold forth on a subject on which he is utterly ignorant? Who could have possibly predicted that?

I lived in rural Vermont for six years as a kid, and your notion that it was 'the most liberal state in the union' would have been a source of quenchless mirth to the actual native Vermonters I grew up with. A much better and nuanced description of the political culture of Vermont would recognize the long and strong history of robust local political particpation in the form of the annual 'Town Meeting,' in which all significant issues under local political control are hashed out face-to-face and in real time.

Because of this, I would say that Vermont is the least ideological state in the union. Which in Rich Schultz's poor ideology-befuddled little mind equates, I guess, with liberalism.

Vermonters are, above all, pragmatic. If something works and saves them money, they're for it - which explains Bernie Sanders, among other things. Bernie doesn't blow smoke up their asses, and they repay the favor by sending him back to Washington, over and over.

They are also highly libertarian in terms of cultural issues, especially in terms of religious freedom - which is also probably why Rich Schultz thinks they are 'liberal' (and, in that sense, they are - just like John Adams and Thomas Jefferson). Significantly, there is a synagogue in the North End of Burlington that was built in the early 19th century; also, despite all that whitewashing bullshit about 'In the name of God and the Continental Congress' Ethan Allen was a heretic if not a blasphemer and actually told the Commandant of Fort Ticonderoga to 'shut yer frickin' pie-hole and give me the keys or I'll blast you' (or words to that effect).

It's also worth noting that New Hampshire is right next door, is only marginally less white, is paleo-conservative, and held with contempt and scorn by Vermont as, basically, a bunch of 'chuckers' (i.e. in-bred redneck dumbfucks). Which they totally are.

In closing, Rich Schultz should shut the fuck up about things he doesn't understand. Which would presumably limit him to posts on ice cream sandwiches, and how good they taste.

Unless he's got some kind of ideological beef with ice cream sandwiches. Which I wouldn't put past him.

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Re: Race in politics

Postby Cornbread » Tue Jun 12, 2012 10:09 pm

jman111 wrote:
Cornbread wrote:I have no idea what a researcher is.

I'm shocked.
Just...shocked.


:D Don't be--I'd bet 99% of the so called "educated" leftists don't even know the difference between a university and a college, so how would they make finer distinctions like a one word label? 8)

I've done "research" for some projects at the UW and my thesis had, ah, "research" too. I know some of that was used. Man, I may be a "researcher" too? All as I got was a piece of paper!

[cue angry devil cat] :twisted:

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Re: Race in politics

Postby Cornbread » Tue Jun 12, 2012 10:18 pm

snoqueen wrote:Or possibly that flavor of liberalism tends to take root where people are similar in certain ways and believe others around them share their values, so they don't see as much reason to feel threatened, get highly competitive for supposedly scarce resources, or set up defensive arrangements.


Wow, that's one long sentence. But you are right about leftists/liberals--they are who they are because they are isolated and insulated as they live in their affluence.

Bravo chica, muy bien!

Personally, I take a historical view. Just as the slavery and war history of the Deep South gives us a certain kind of gun culture


ROTFLMAO! That's pegging the silly-o-meter.
You aren't "genie" from the wisconsin state journal's website are you?

"Slavery and war history of the 'deep south' gives us a certain kind of gun culture"!!!!! OMG! Thanks genie, you just made my night!!!!


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