What happened again to a private sector business (boeing) wanting to move some of their production to another state (south carolina) again?
What happened indeed?
The plaintiff in the suit against Boeing, the machinists' union, approved a new contract with Boeing, approved by 74% of its membership, that said Boeing's newest plane will be built in Washington State by union members. With that, the union was willing to dismiss its complaint against Boeing regarding the SC plant.
SC workers and WA workers still have their jobs, Boeing is still making planes, and the process worked.
I'm not sure what you're complaining about. SC doesn't like unions, it's got a non-union plant. WA likes unions, they've got a union plant. Boeing wants to manufacture planes. It's fine.
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/20 ... st-boeing/
Now, when the SC plant decides to close or move, its workers haven't got much recourse. But as stella says, it's their choice, right? Not necessarily an informed or empowered choice, but one in keeping with the traditions in that part of the country.
The minimum wage has little to do with anything we've been discussing.
I don't know of anyone that works for min wage, so why all the leftist democrat propaganda about it then?
Don't ask me. You brought it up -- I figured you were trying to say something.
who gets to decide how much is enough for you, me or godzilla? Unions are stuck with their pre-negotiated wage, so good, bad, lame or lousy they all get the same.
The unions and employers negotiate a contract (as we've been trying to explain to you) and it remains in force usually until a new contract is signed. The union members are trading away a little bit of individual flexibility -- maybe -- for more job security and better pay for the membership as a whole.
This is what you don't get. Some people think their personal interest is part of a larger group interest, and that the good of the community, not just individualism, is socially valuable. What good is it if one machinist is making big bucks, if the other machinists he used to work with (and their families and kids) are sleeping in a car beside the curb? Some people actually care about one another, as you might find out too if you worked with other people for ten or twenty years.
(By the way, a prime example of all this is the military. People in the military care for each other above all else, as you might recall if you went to any Memorial Day events. They work for fairly basic pay at all pay grades, but compared with the private sector they have benefits galore for the rest of their lives including -- get ready for this -- healthcare. Buncha socialists, in fact.)
In society at large, the more things decay for those on the short end, the less delightful the lives of the few who benefit will become. If you think it's the best possible outcome to live behind a chain link fence and have all your stuff brought in by FedEx, have at it. It's not cheap.
If someone is really good and works really hard, shouldn't they get more money? And if so, how much?
The option of self-employment is always open. I was self-employed for years and years and did just fine. Nobody's stopping anybody from taking the same route -- it's just not possible to have everyone in the entire country be simultaneously self-employed, even if they wanted to. And a lot of people don't want to. I myself got tired of dealing with the general public after a couple decades and went back to working for a company. Either way has good and bad parts.
You and your friends on some board decide what my employer should pay me and anything more, you'll confiscate in the form of taxes?
Nobody's on any board deciding what any employer should pay you. If you're talking about the NLRB, they don't set wages (as explained earlier).
And I also explained earlier that we've had the income tax in this country for 99 years already and if you're still determined to kick and scream about it, go find a country where they don't have taxes of one sort or another. (The VAT is one alternative -- look it up.) Good luck with that.
Why do you want to control (and punish) me or others?
Heh. Why do you ask?