Confessions of a Torturer

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Postby Mike S. » Thu Mar 15, 2007 10:21 pm

War is NOT the root cause of this problem. The U.S. was in a war with Iraq before and this stuff didn't happen. The U.S. has messed around with Bosnia, Somalia, all sorts of places, and always kept this stuff far away from them. I'm not saying that Reagan didn't connive to make stuff like this happen (he was a Republican after all...) but he had to arrange for "Contras" and other unsavory Latin American proxies to come to Georgia for training to do the dirty work. No, the fact is that we have a new modern Grand Unified Theory of criminal, corporate, religious, and governmental administration, which dictates that one is morally obligated to lie, cheat, steal, and defy all constitutional and international law to accomplish whatever the goal of the moment may be, and anything else is bad ethics. That's the same story whether you want to get a new cell phone and they quote you a price that doesn't include the "upgrade fee" and neglect to mention that your new phone doesn't qualify for the rebate they promised you, or whether you're some poor Iraqi teenager waiting to see whether the sergeants pounding on your tin prison get the slack to come in and beat you up. You can call it conservativism, Republicanism, reactionism, fascism, or just plain amorality, but it is the stock in trade of all great nations whose pride has outlasted their substance.

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Postby Chuck_Schick » Fri Mar 16, 2007 10:07 am

Chief Mongo wrote:Iâ??m only saying Iâ??m sick of hearing about it ...

Then go away or, again, take your advice and jam a sock in it, moron. Your disgust that the debate continues despite your contributions to same is about as sensible as pitching your two cents in the wishing well and getting pissed-off that the water ripples.

Pseudo-intellect? That's high praise coming from someone as bereft of original thought as you.

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Postby hulk » Fri Mar 16, 2007 2:02 pm

The Tolerator wrote:
Henry Vilas wrote:When and where did you serve?


This isn't about me, it's about Massimo.

Note - another leftist technique, a change of subject.


Attributing that as a leftist technique is a load of crap. It's used equally to deflect actual debate.

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Postby Chief Mongo » Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:15 am

Mike S. wrote:War is NOT the root cause of this problem. The U.S. was in a war with Iraq before and this stuff didn't happen. The U.S. has messed around with Bosnia, Somalia, all sorts of places, and always kept this stuff far away from them.

Sorry Mike, itâ??s time for that reality checkâ?Š

Mike S. wrote: No, the fact is that we have a new modern Grand Unified Theory of criminal, corporate, religious, and governmental administration, which dictates that one is morally obligated to lie, cheat, steal, and defy all constitutional and international law to accomplish whatever the goal of the moment may be, and anything else is bad ethics.

New? Exactly where have you been holed since - forever? Thereâ??s nothing â??newâ?Â

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Postby Chuck_Schick » Tue Mar 20, 2007 9:41 am

Yawn ...

Yeah, I'm a nutcase. Go fuck yourself, Dr. Phil.

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Postby AlphaLiberal » Fri Mar 23, 2007 12:39 pm

Tolerator, have you signed up yet to do your bit for the Iraq occupation?

Time to get in the fight, man! You love this war!


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