Vulgar football chants

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Re: Vulgar football chants

Postby Stebben84 » Thu Nov 21, 2013 6:42 pm

I did get it Henry. I was adding to the satire. Bad quoting on my part.

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Re: Vulgar football chants

Postby O.J. » Thu Nov 21, 2013 10:15 pm

Shorty wrote:
O.J. wrote:The one that draws the most ire is the "Eat **** -- **** you" chanted back and forth, which has been going on for at least 25 years. Pleading to the students to cease doing this is completely futile. The only possible way to stop it would be to threaten to not play Jump Around.

UW has pleaded and it hasn't worked. That's why I say eject the potty-mouthed students. The Jump Around song is getting rather old and tired, so I wouldn't mind getting rid of that, too.

Henry Vilas wrote:One of my high school's chants: "Woe betide them. Their lust and greed for points will be their downfall."

That's more like it. UW should have chants like that.


You fuckin' censored the "shit" and "fuck" from my fuckin' quote. Please don't fuckin' do that again.

Sincerely, O to the muthafuckin' J.

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Re: Vulgar football chants

Postby Shorty » Mon Nov 25, 2013 9:26 pm

green union terrace chair wrote:Not to mention problems with the first amendment.

It's a paid sports event, not a public demonstration or protest. What about the rights of the fans, including some families with kids, who paid good money to see the game but don't want to hear vulgar chants?

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Re: Vulgar football chants

Postby green union terrace chair » Mon Nov 25, 2013 10:47 pm

Shorty wrote:
green union terrace chair wrote:Not to mention problems with the first amendment.

It's a paid sports event, not a public demonstration or protest. What about the rights of the fans, including some families with kids, who paid good money to see the game but don't want to hear vulgar chants?

It's an event on state land, put on by the University, which is a part of state government and subject to the Wisconsin Constitution, in which section 3 states:

Every person may freely speak, write and publish his sentiments on all subjects, being responsible for the abuse of that right, and no laws shall be passed to restrain or abridge the liberty of speech or of the press.


And you don't have the right to not hear something. So eat shit and fuck you.**




** I generally refrain from name-calling on TDPF but I feel that it is not only warranted or encouraged in this thread but required. Vulgar football chants are the canary in the coal mine of free speech.

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Re: Vulgar football chants

Postby pjbogart » Mon Nov 25, 2013 11:14 pm

Shorty wrote:
green union terrace chair wrote:Not to mention problems with the first amendment.

It's a paid sports event, not a public demonstration or protest. What about the rights of the fans, including some families with kids, who paid good money to see the game but don't want to hear vulgar chants?


So I took my 16 year-old nephew to his first ever Wisconsin football game a few weeks ago vs. BYU. Now I know you're probably talking about children younger than 16, but the point should hold anyway. On the way to the game we passed through throngs of people, many of them chugging alcohol, a fraternity house where students were dangling a beer bong off the second story and pouring BUD-FUCKING-LIGHT down a funnel. That alone should get them expelled, but I digress. Heavy police presence with canine units, shoulder to shoulder crowds stuffing themselves through the gates to get to their seats where they proceeded to scream and yell and generally act like hooligans even if they were in their 90's. And you're worried that some kids might be offended by the student section swearing?

If you took a ten-year old to a Badger game and the only thing you needed to explain was the students' vulgar chants, I'd say you're a pretty poor parent.

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Re: Vulgar football chants

Postby butters » Tue Nov 26, 2013 11:44 am

The chants at hockey games are usually pretty dumb, lack imagination, and usually just fall flat. And when repeated constantly they become annoying.

Case in point:
"Hit somebody... Anybody... Hard!"
I mean c'mon.

And I know it's a tradition but why chant "Sieve"? A Sieve is designed to strain and stop solid objects. If you want to compare a goalie to a utensil that lets everything through, they should be chanting "Funnel".

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Re: Vulgar football chants

Postby Stomach » Tue Nov 26, 2013 12:57 pm

pjbogart wrote:...shoulder to shoulder crowds stuffing themselves through the gates to get to their seats where they proceeded to scream and yell and generally act like hooligans even if they were in their 90's.


Really? I didn't go to any games this year but in the past the folks in my section (D) were rather sedate. I don't think Camp Randall is nearly as loud as it should be for some games, often the crowd waits until the opposing offense has 3rd and long before making any kind of noise.

A guy near me told his son they were chanting "Eat Fish", "Shrimp Too" and the kid seemed to buy it.

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Re: Vulgar football chants

Postby Stebben84 » Tue Nov 26, 2013 1:40 pm

butters wrote:And I know it's a tradition but why chant "Sieve"? A Sieve is designed to strain and stop solid objects. If you want to compare a goalie to a utensil that lets everything through, they should be chanting "Funnel".


Don't over think that one:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_d ... nhl,202471

A sieve, for those of you that don't know, is a pan with a screen on the bottom that separates large objects from sand or other finer material. To call a goalie a sieve is to imply that he, too, is full of holes.

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Re: Vulgar football chants

Postby ilikebeans » Tue Nov 26, 2013 1:45 pm

pjbogart wrote:...a beer bong off the second story and pouring BUD-FUCKING-LIGHT down a funnel. That alone should get them expelled, but I digress.

It's a beer bong. You think they're going to chug two stories of Hopalicious?

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Re: Vulgar football chants

Postby gozer » Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:45 pm

the cup fights of the days of yore seem to have been more of an issue, at least as far as the media is concerned -- i've seen articles about them in the new york times and it seemed they were all over the canadian media as well as less far afield for a time in the autumn of 1990. one of my relatives clipped the story out of le devoir and mailed a copy to us.

with seating like it is now, a cup fight would either be so diffuse as to be a non-starter or so massive and overwhelming as to get the siren & 72-point treatment on the drudge report. i think it is likely to be the former . . .

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Re: Vulgar football chants

Postby Madsci » Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:31 pm

I know the chants but why are they considered vulgar? After all it is a football game. Most children have been exposed to this type of language since they started school if not sooner. Think of the children is a cop-out to your puritan upbringing.

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Re: Vulgar football chants

Postby Shorty » Fri Dec 20, 2013 11:17 am

Your children have heard swearing since they were pre-school age? They must have had a rough upbringing. Yes children may hear that language in school (outside of class rooms) but they aren't sitting with their family at a paid recreational event. In that setting it seems like there should be better standards.

Families hearing vulgar chants at a sports event together is like going to a sex-ed talk together, or going to an X rated porn movie together. it's just not something families should do together.
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Re: Vulgar football chants

Postby Shorty » Fri Dec 20, 2013 11:22 am

green union terrace chair wrote:It's an event on state land, put on by the University, which is a part of state government and subject to the Wisconsin Constitution, in which section 3 states:

Every person may freely speak, write and publish his sentiments on all subjects, being responsible for the abuse of that right, and no laws shall be passed to restrain or abridge the liberty of speech or of the press.

So I could attend a Sunday afternoon concert at the Chazen or Humanities bldng and shout vulgar chants? They wouldn't have any right to ask me to stop or throw me out?


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