waylan wrote: bcs89 wrote:
waylan wrote:The officer didn't identify himself as a police officer. Apparently, that's acceptable for the MPD. That is very messed up. Paulie didn't know he was a potential burglar. As wasted as Paulie was, is there a chance Paulie thought the officer was someone else? How was he to know a cop would be showing up? Was he trying to save his neighbor at that point thinking the cop was a burglar?
Yes indeed - if someone wants to get so wasted they illegally enter someones home, then attack the home owner and the officer responding to a panicked mothers 911 call, well, the least we should do is try and see things from the point of view of being wasted - right?
Maybe Heenan thought the officer was a Klingon, come to spray paraquat on all the cupcakes, right? For this to happen to a kind soul trying to protect our supply of cupcakes from Klingon's is just plain evil.
I'm not here to pick fights guy. I feel terrible for the police officer. Im sure he felt his life was in danger, but i know in my heart of hearts paulie would have not tried to kill the officer. An innocent man was killed. I'm just suggesting, since the officer didnt announce himself, maybe Paulie wasn't willfully attacking a police officer. If he followed police protocol and an innocent man was killed, did he really do the right thing?
And by the way, if someone wants to get shitfaced, guess what, that's completely legal.
I'm sorry you've never heard a story about someone walking into the wrong persons house mistakenly, because I've heard at least 10 to 15 stories of it happening. This is the first one that ended in death.
OK waylan, Let’s talk.
You say “i know in my heart of hearts paulie would have not tried to kill the officer” You know him that well – apparently well enough to predict his actions, right? Well then why did you not stop him that night? You would have known he was about to make some really bad decisions, correct? Why did you let him? Why did you not tell him drinking to the point of oblivion was not a good idea? You were aware he drank like that, right? The same questions about illegal entry of a house, attacking his neighbor, attacking the responding officer – why did you not tell him the dangers?
You keep saying “innocent man”, he certainly did not act like one that night. The home owner said he had no problem identifying the officer as such – none at all.
Now, so far as your next pearl of wisdom “And by the way, if someone wants to get shitfaced, guess what, that's completely legal.” You of course are correct – to the extent you take it. The next part of that statement should include something about retaining responsibility for your actions, right? Or do you believe being shitfaced is a valid defense? Try it sometime, “Hell yeah officer, I threw a brick through that window.. but hey, not my fault..I’m shitfaced!" Let me know how that works out for you.
So far as people going in the wrong house by mistake – yes, you are right, it happens. It also can end in tragedy – just one of the many reasons why most people try to maintain enough of their senses to avoid doing it .
The truth is, due to the amount of alcohol he chose to drink, the events that played out that night involved a Paul Heenan that you, his family, and others in his life most likely would not even have recognized.