jonnygothispen wrote: You have beat the crap out drunks
Really? Multiple times? Got a source for that?
jonnygothispen wrote:and one time so bad that the bartenders called 9-11
And if you read the actual report and not the journalistic hit piece, some bartenders(who were there) thought it was justified with the way the suspect was acting.
jonnygothispen wrote:And you're bigger (50 pounds) than this guy who you just overpowered despite having a gun in your hand. Now he's standing 5 to 6 feet away, hands at his side, and glances at or near an approaching squad car.
Until people stop acting like armchair cops, then this will go no where. Not like it was going anywhere to begin with.
Maggie wrote:But no, all we get is a stubborn refusal to even consider that maybe Stephen Heimsness could have handled this situation in a different and better way.
Sure he could have, and millions of people in this world could have done things differently as well. Some people seem to think that if they were in the situation, they could have acted so differently. They would have known if the guy had a gun, or wasn't on meth, or wasn't REALLY lunging for the gun. They could have used the vulcan death grip to subdue the suspect, or shot out his hands, or ran, or given him a high five for getting so hammered.
jonnygothispen wrote:It might be interesting to note that Mrs. O'Malley heard Mr. O'Malley's loud shouting "He's a neighbor!!! He's a neighbor!!!" while inside the house.
And wasn't he on the porch, much closer to where his wife was?