Detritus wrote: Dangerousman wrote:
Detritus wrote:If Zimmerman had been black, I seriously doubt he would have had a cc permit & been on the neighborhood watch in Sanford.
That's two completely unsupported assertions.
I don't suppose you have any evidence that actually relates to Florida in general, Sanford in particular, do you?
Also, you might want to look up the definition of "assertion."
I don't have any information about whether blacks in Florida are denied CC permits or the makeup of the participants in the Sanford neighborhood watch program. Do you? You said you "seriously doubt." So that sounds like an assertion to me as opposed to "just kinda wondering whether..." What is the basis for your serious doubt?
I'm fairly certain that if there was an indication that the state denied CC licenses based on race you'd have the Justice Department and the NRA all over them. So if you have reason to believe it's occurring, by all means turn over the evidence so someone can begin to fight racist practices!
Maybe if you want to hunt for race-based denials of concealed carry licenses you'd have better luck starting in the "may issue" states of California, New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Hawaii, Rhode Island, Delaware and Maryland. That "may issue" system seems to be much riper for abuse or arbitrary denial of licenses. Better yet, start with New York City's concealed carry license practices. They won't honor other NY state-issued licenses. Apparently the only people in New York City deemed worthy to carry guns for protection are the very rich and well-connected. That's right, the people who live in the nicest and safest areas and who can afford private security seem to face the greatest threat and get to carry a gun for protection-- not the people who live in East New York, Brownsville and a few other high-crime neighborhoods of the city. After all, it would be a huge tragedy if Donald Trump or Robert De Niro got robbed or beaten or killed but not so much if it's one of the faceless people in East Harlem and Bedford–Stuyvesant whose lives-- or maybe bank accounts-- don't really matter.