Amy Winehouse Assumes Room Temperature

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Re: Amy Winehouse Assumes Room Temperature

Postby snoqueen » Sun Jul 24, 2011 8:09 pm

It's kind of creepy that Amy's mother's name was Janis -- not Janice, but Janis:

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/43866337

I noticed that in another topic, this topic was criticized for being inappropriate. Maybe it is, but as my own mother used to say, "You gotta laugh so you don't cry." After a while I think that's how people get about drug-related deaths among celebrities. It doesn't mean we're laughing at them -- it's more like "here we go again, folks."

It did make me go back and listen to some of her stuff on Back to Black. She seemed to have a sense of where she wanted to go, musically. It's a shame she didn't get more time.

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Re: Amy Winehouse Assumes Room Temperature

Postby rrnate » Mon Jul 25, 2011 9:03 am

Yup, Back In Black is pretty dang great. (Sorry guys - not interested in talking about Janis Joplin.) The few tracks she put out post-then were great too. Definitely too bad she was able to flounder so hard for so long - she had a great voice.

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Re: Amy Winehouse Assumes Room Temperature

Postby Henry Vilas » Mon Jul 25, 2011 10:51 am

Just to piss off depinmad, let me mention that blues great Robert Johnson also died at age 27.

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From Winehouse to Whinehouse

Postby Marvell » Mon Jul 25, 2011 11:59 am

rrnate wrote:Sorry guys - not interested in talking about Janis Joplin.


Then don't.

Honestly - how fucking hard is that?

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Re: From Winehouse to Whinehouse

Postby rrnate » Mon Jul 25, 2011 1:35 pm

Marvell wrote:
rrnate wrote:Sorry guys - not interested in talking about Janis Joplin.


Then don't.

Honestly - how fucking hard is that?


Normally super easy, harder when you guys get going.

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Re: Amy Winehouse Assumes Room Temperature

Postby Henry Vilas » Mon Jul 25, 2011 1:41 pm

So should we talk about Robert Johnson instead? Although he didn't OD on drugs, instead it was his penchant for other people's wives that done him in.

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Re: Amy Winehouse Assumes Room Temperature

Postby rrnate » Mon Jul 25, 2011 1:47 pm

OK, I just wrote an outline for a play.

News: famous person dies.

Person 1: OMG, it's just like when this other person died!

Person 2: Oh, I know, it's so sad!

Person 3: I don't like this other person you're thinking of.

Person 4: Snark!

Other Thread: What a hurtful thread!

Whatever. I think it's facile to immediately compare Amy Winehouse to Janis Joplin, but whatevs. Yes, there are similarities - famous ladies that died from substance abuse at the same approximate age. Is that really the most interesting thing to talk about? It's obv. not just here - just in general, the media attention has been pretty dopey so far on this.

Of course there's also news that A) Back To Black had a huge sales spike over the weekend, as jerkwads everywhere suddenly became intrigued and B) they'll probably release some half-done "new" album at some point.

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Re: Amy Winehouse Assumes Room Temperature

Postby Henry Vilas » Mon Jul 25, 2011 1:56 pm

rrnate wrote: I think it's facile to immediately compare Amy Winehouse to Janis Joplin, but whatevs.

Because Joplin has a much bigger body of work than Winehouse (even with posthumous releases)?

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Re: Amy Winehouse Assumes Room Temperature

Postby thebookpolice » Mon Jul 25, 2011 1:57 pm

I'd never imagine myself writing that Russell Brand of all people had it right, talking about her talent juxtaposed to her addictions, and how one shouldn't overshadow the other--in either direction.

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Re: Amy Winehouse Assumes Room Temperature

Postby rrnate » Mon Jul 25, 2011 2:18 pm

Henry Vilas wrote:
rrnate wrote: I think it's facile to immediately compare Amy Winehouse to Janis Joplin, but whatevs.

Because Joplin has a much bigger body of work than Winehouse (even with posthumous releases)?


For any number of reasons Henry. (I'm guessing you mean "without".)

I'll let you get back to dropping nostalgia all over the place now.

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Re: Amy Winehouse Assumes Room Temperature

Postby Marvell » Mon Jul 25, 2011 2:37 pm

rrnate wrote:I think it's facile to immediately compare Amy Winehouse to Janis Joplin, but whatevs. Yes, there are similarities - famous ladies that died from substance abuse at the same approximate age. Is that really the most interesting thing to talk about? It's obv. not just here - just in general, the media attention has been pretty dopey so far on this.


Well, duh. When is media attention not dopey? Lowest common denominator and all that.

I think an apter comparison might be to Chet Baker - or even kd lang, who had the career savvy not to be a doper and a juicer but otherwise has an artistic profile closer to Winehouse than Joplin's.

The thing that always struck me about Winehouse was the percieved disconnect between her public image and her recorded output. Which says more about modern media fatuity than it does about Ms. Winehouse's qualities as an artist.
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Re: Amy Winehouse Assumes Room Temperature

Postby Marvell » Mon Jul 25, 2011 2:55 pm

Man - how embarrassing!

To be fair, I'm really hungry for a sandwich.

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Re: Amy Winehouse Assumes Room Temperature

Postby Henry Vilas » Mon Jul 25, 2011 2:59 pm

rrnate wrote:I'll let you get back to dropping nostalgia all over the place now.

Isn't that how most people deal with death? Anger is another option.

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Re: Amy Winehouse Assumes Room Temperature

Postby rrnate » Mon Jul 25, 2011 3:09 pm

Henry Vilas wrote:
rrnate wrote:I'll let you get back to dropping nostalgia all over the place now.

Isn't that how most people deal with death? Anger is another option.


Well sure, but usually the nostalgia isn't for some other long-deceased person.


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