Amy Winehouse Assumes Room Temperature

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Amy Winehouse Assumes Room Temperature

Postby HeyZeus » Sat Jul 23, 2011 12:31 pm

73 points. Who's got her on their dead pool?

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Re: Amy Winehouse Assumes Room Temperature

Postby KidCapitol » Sat Jul 23, 2011 2:54 pm

Gee.
That's too ba....
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Re: Amy Winehouse Assumes Room Temperature

Postby ilikebeans » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:53 pm

KidCapitol wrote:Beavis and Butthead are coming back!

YES! All hail the Great Cornholio!

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Re: Amy Winehouse Assumes Room Temperature

Postby Henry Vilas » Sat Jul 23, 2011 4:35 pm

Age 27 is a common one for rock and rollers to bow out. If memory serves, Janis Joplin, Jimi Hendrix, Jim Morrison and Duane Allman, among many others, left this mortal coil at that age.

Cue the good professor to correct any errors in the above statement.

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Re: Amy Winehouse Assumes Room Temperature

Postby bdog » Sat Jul 23, 2011 4:38 pm

Amy Winehouse dead?

My reaction is same as when George "Mr. Zulu" Takei announced he was gay.

"Of course you are".

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Re: Amy Winehouse Assumes Room Temperature

Postby Dangerousman » Sat Jul 23, 2011 5:41 pm

Henry Vilas wrote:Age 27 is a common one for rock and rollers to bow out. If memory serves, Janis Joplin, Jimi Hendrix, Jim Morrison and Duane Allman, among many others, left this mortal coil at that age.

Cue the good professor to correct any errors in the above statement.


Duane Allman was only 24. But a few other notables include Kurt Cobain, Brian Jones and "Pigpen" from the Grateful Dead.

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Re: Amy Winehouse Assumes Room Temperature

Postby snoqueen » Sat Jul 23, 2011 5:59 pm

Janis Joplin came to mind for me as well when I read Amy checked out.

Joplin's music has not stood the test of time, unlike Hendrix and maybe Morrison. You never hear her stuff played these days -- it was really rough.

Here's a rare poster of Joplin and Pigpen together:

http://www.bonhams.com/cgi-bin/public.s ... ectionNo=1

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Re: Amy Winehouse Assumes Room Temperature

Postby Dangerousman » Sat Jul 23, 2011 6:07 pm

Well you have to stop listening to Magic 98. I hear Janis fairly often on the radio. And I'd rather hear her than Amy Winehouse anytime.

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Re: Amy Winehouse Assumes Room Temperature

Postby Dangerousman » Sat Jul 23, 2011 6:09 pm

Pretty cool poster though. Thanks for finding that.

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Postby Marvell » Sat Jul 23, 2011 6:24 pm

snoqueen wrote:Joplin's music has not stood the test of time, unlike Hendrix and maybe Morrison. You never hear her stuff played these days -- it was really rough.


I know we are talking about subjective observations here, but I disagree. Of the three you reference, I would say that it's Morrison's status as an artist that has degraded the most with time.

I will acknowledge that Joplin's recorded output isn't very impressive from a technical perspective. Which would make sense, given the relative quality of the sidemen that she worked with compared to Jimi and Jim. The Doors were, let's face it, a great band. But the whole 'Lizard King / Jim the Blakean Poet' business was a little silly and overwrought even at the time; given a quarter-century plus of hindsight, it's really pretty juvenile.

Whereas when I saw Festival Express a couple years ago, what really jumped out at me was Janis. Her numbers are the highlight of the film, and some of the great musical performances ever captured, in my opinion.

Jimi was a great songwriter, guitarist and arranger, and a studio visionary - so it's a little unfair to compare Janis to him as an artist; it's like comparing Aretha Franklin to Ray Charles. But I will willingly go on record and compare Janis to Aretha; just like Lady Soul, Pearl was a force of nature.

Plus Leonard Cohen wrote "Chelsea Hotel" about her:

I don't mean to suggest
That I loved you best
I can't keep track of each falling robin
I remember you well
In the Chelsea Hotel
That's all - I don't think of you that often...

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Re: Amy Winehouse Assumes Room Temperature

Postby barney » Sat Jul 23, 2011 8:01 pm

Whereas when I saw Festival Express a couple years ago, what really jumped out at me was Janis. Her numbers are the highlight of the film, and some of the great musical performances ever captured, in my opinion.


Amen to that - that version of Cry Baby is just fucking amazing. Her voice still gives me goosebumps and she had been dead a few years before I was even born.

Amy Winehouse seemed more like a walking trainwreck than a tragic, pained soul. Cobain, Janis, Jim Morrison, yes; I think Amy Winehouse just liked to be high. Not that there's anything wrong with that, I don't mind it myself, just not to the level that she did....

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Re: Amy Winehouse Assumes Room Temperature

Postby Henry Vilas » Sat Jul 23, 2011 9:00 pm

At least I got see Janis perform, twice. Once with Big Brother and the Holding Company (Hell's Angels as "ushers") and later with the Full Tilt Boogie Band. Different civic venues in San Diego while doing my time in the Navy. Missed Jimi by a month in Madison. Sad to have never seen Dwayne perform, even if he was younger than Amy (thanks Dman for looking that up).

Ain't nostalgia the shits?

Got a true story about a prof/politico who had a blind date with Ms. Joplin, but that's for another (and a long time prior) story. Took his constitutional philosophy graduate seminar when he told the tale.

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Re: Amy Winehouse Assumes Room Temperature

Postby snoqueen » Sat Jul 23, 2011 9:12 pm

OK, OK, I take it back.

If Leonard Cohen wrote that song about Janis, she belongs on anybody's short list.

She looked cheerful in that picture with Pigpen, too.

I agree about some of Jim Morrison's stuff sounding juvenile today. The Doors were a great band and maybe that's what people take as an influence. Morrison himself might be more of a cult figure.

Milw Journal-Sentinel blogger also notes the "27" connection:
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/entertain ... 61578.html

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Re: Amy Winehouse Assumes Room Temperature

Postby Henry Vilas » Sat Jul 23, 2011 9:43 pm

An old, old Navy shipmate saw the Doors' infamous Miami Concert, where Morrison supposedly let it all hang out. He wrote about his first hand experience. Intereesting guy. More stories than Forest Gump, but his are the real thing, I'm mentioned in chapter 24, Tripping in Norfolk. Buy the book and know Henry Vilas' true identity.

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Re: Amy Winehouse Assumes Room Temperature

Postby Dangerousman » Sat Jul 23, 2011 10:58 pm

Henry Vilas wrote:At least I got see Janis perform, twice.


Oh come on, if you were really there you wouldn't remember, right?

Actually that's pretty cool. But what's with the tiny font?


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