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Re: Klimate Kooks Korrekt

Postby Henry Vilas » Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:32 pm

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Re: Klimate Kooks Korrekt

Postby Detritus » Thu Feb 09, 2012 5:18 pm

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Ask not for whom the bell tolls....

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Re: Klimate Kooks Korrekt

Postby ilikebeans » Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:55 pm

Leak exposes how Heartland Institute works to undermine climate science

Hahaha oh man, how the tables have turned. And hey, guess who's behind the Institute's funding?

The papers indicate that discrediting established climate science remains a core mission of the organisation, which has received support from a network of wealthy individuals – including the Koch oil billionaires as well as corporations such as Microsoft and RJR Tobacco.

The others I can understand, but Microsoft? Anyway, how are these funds being used?

Heartland is anxious to retain its hold over mainstream media outlets, fretting in the documents about how Forbes magazine is publishing prominent climate scientists such as Peter Gleick. "This influential audience has usually been reliably anti-climate and it is important to keep opposing voices out," Heartland documents warn.
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Heartland hopes to cash in on its vocal support for the controversial mining method known as fracking, the document suggests.
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The group spends $300,000 on salaries for a team of experts working to undermine the findings of the UN climate body, the IPCC.

It plans to expand that this year by paying a former US department of energy employee to write an alternative curriculum for schoolchildren that will cast doubt on global warming. The fundraising plan notes the anonymous donor has set aside $100,000 for the project.

"Heartland has tried to make material available to teachers, but has had only limited success. Principals and teachers are heavily biased toward the alarmist perspective. Moreover, material for classroom use must be carefully written to meet curriculum guidelines, and the amount of time teachers have for supplemental material is steadily shrinking due to the spread of standardized tests in K-12 education," the fundraising plan said.

So conservative-backed standardized testing is keeping out misinformation by the nutters? Irony!

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Re: Klimate Kooks Korrekt

Postby DCB » Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:37 am

ilikebeans wrote:Leak exposes how Heartland Institute works to undermine climate science

Hahaha oh man, how the tables have turned. And hey, guess who's behind the Institute's funding?

The papers indicate that discrediting established climate science remains a core mission of the organisation, which has received support from a network of wealthy individuals – including the Koch oil billionaires as well as corporations such as Microsoft and RJR Tobacco.


I'm shocked! shocked! to learn that Koch industries are involved.

The NYT has a good article on this. Microsoft is trying to distance itself from this toxic group:
the Microsoft spokesman, Mark Murray, said the gift was not a cash contribution but rather the value of free software, which Microsoft gives to thousands of nonprofit groups.


The same people that have been hounding climate scientists about 'transparency' are outraged that their own agenda is exposed.

Heartland said the documents were not from an insider but were obtained by a caller pretending to be a board member of the group who was switching to a new e-mail address. “We intend to find this person and see him or her put in prison for these crimes,” the organization said.


And speaking of crimes:
The documents raise questions about whether the group has undertaken partisan political activities, a potential violation of federal tax law governing nonprofit groups. For instance, the documents outline “Operation Angry Badger,” a plan to spend $612,000 to influence the outcome of recall elections and related fights this year in Wisconsin over the role of public-sector unions.


See, its not just about destroying the environment - its also about destroying the middle class!

And kudos to the NYT for calling a spade a spade:
The curriculum would claim, for instance, that “whether humans are changing the climate is a major scientific controversy.”

It is in fact not a scientific controversy.

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Re: Klimate Kooks Korrekt

Postby snoqueen » Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:01 pm

Here's a lot more on "Angry Badger" -- a lot more creepiness, that is.

http://cognidissidence.blogspot.com/201 ... adger.html

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Re: Klimate Kooks Korrekt

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Re: Klimate Kooks Korrekt

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The comments are hysterical. In response to the article, showing yet another 'skeptic' to be intellectually bankrupt, some idiot posts 'climate change is a hoax'.

And you base this on what exactly?

Who knows. Maybe someday one of these skeptics will get a real paper past peer-review.

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Re: Klimate Kooks Korrekt

Postby DCB » Sat Feb 25, 2012 12:53 pm

Meanwhile, the GOP continues on its jihad against science:
http://insideclimatenews.org/news/20120 ... ry-emanuel

Since 2010 Emanuel has written op-eds in the Boston Globe, The Wall Street Journal and The Miami Herald on the need for leaders to tackle climate change and on the link between hurricanes and climate change. Last year he defended the science of climate change in front of the U.S. House Committee on Science, Space and Technology. He has vowed to continue his efforts despite being bombarded with hate mail after appearing in a video for the Climate Desk, a collaboration of media organizations. In it, he disclosed that he was a conservative scientist, and he questioned why GOP leaders are hesitant to deal with the climate issue when moral responsibility is such a big theme for the party....

Other scientists who once frequently contacted politicians, or were contacted by them, have decided it's a lost cause and have kept silent in recent years after being ignored by Washington or discouraged by policymakers' lack of interest.

The same goes for Calvin DeWitt, an environmental scientist who researches climate change at the University of Wisconsin-Madison. DeWitt is a vocal evangelical Christian and although he won't affiliate himself with a single party, he does admit his religious and cultural beliefs fall in line with the majority of Republicans. He has played a significant role in nearly every intersection of climate scientists with evangelicals and politicians, including the creation of the Evangelical Climate Initiative in 2006, a group of over 300 senior evangelical leaders who believe the nation needs to address global warming.

In recent years, however, DeWitt's efforts have been thwarted, he told InsideClimate News. "The times I've tried to reach out to politicians, I have not been welcome.

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Re: Klimate Kooks Korrekt

Postby ilikebeans » Wed Mar 07, 2012 12:54 am

Scientists see rise in tornado-creating conditions

This statistic just dropped my jaw:
April 2011 was the most active tornado month on record, with 753, according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), compared to the previous record of 267 in April 1974. [...] On average, about 800 tornadoes are reported annually in the United States.

Man-- nearly three times the number of tornadoes in a single month than had ever been previously recorded, and which came close to the annual average. Of course, it's only a single year's data, but check out the rest of the article for more support.

We've already seen one massive outbreak this year. Good luck with that lack of sirens, Brookfield.

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Re: Klimate Kooks Korrekt

Postby DCB » Wed Mar 07, 2012 11:55 am

ilikebeans wrote:Scientists see rise in tornado-creating conditions

This statistic just dropped my jaw:
April 2011 was the most active tornado month on record, with 753, according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), compared to the previous record of 267 in April 1974. [...] On average, about 800 tornadoes are reported annually in the United States.

Man-- nearly three times the number of tornadoes in a single month than had ever been previously recorded, and which came close to the annual average. Of course, it's only a single year's data, but check out the rest of the article for more support.

We've already seen one massive outbreak this year. Good luck with that lack of sirens, Brookfield.

Well hopefully all those people have insurance, so its all good, right?

American Family Insurance Group in 2011 saw a nearly 40 percent loss in net income compared with the previous year, after customers pummeled by Midwestern wind and hail storms filed a record of nearly $1.2 billion in claims.

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The damage started with storms that fueled $650 million in claims in April and May, including the tornado in Joplin, Mo., that killed more than 160 people and produced more than $100 million in claims.


http://host.madison.com/wsj/business/ca ... 3ce6c.html

AmFam is one of (if not the) biggest private employers in our area.

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Re: Klimate Kooks Korrekt

Postby Henry Vilas » Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:07 am

Pacific nation may move entire population to Fiji

Fearing that climate change could wipe out their entire Pacific archipelago, the leaders of Kiribati are considering an unusual backup plan: moving the populace to Fiji.
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Kiribati, which straddles the equator near the international date line, has found itself at the leading edge of the debate on climate change because many of its atolls rise just a few feet above sea level.

[Kiribati President] Tong said some villages have already moved and there have been increasing instances of sea water contaminating the island's underground fresh water...

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Re: Klimate Kooks Korrekt

Postby DCB » Mon Mar 12, 2012 10:50 am

F. Sherwood Rowland, the Nobel prize-winning chemist who sounded the alarm on the thinning of the Earth's ozone layer and crusaded against the use of man-made chemicals that were harming earth's atmospheric blanket, has died. He was 84.
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"Isn't it a responsibility of scientists, if you believe that you have found something that can affect the environment, isn't it your responsibility to do something about it, enough so that action actually takes place?" Rowland said at a White House climate change roundtable in 1997.

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Latest-New ... n-research

Rowland and his colleagues spoke out. A global agreement was reached, and the harsh regulations wiped the entire chemical industry. Or not:
The DuPont Company, the top United States chemical maker, reported third-quarter profit and sales on Tuesday that beat analyst estimates, and then it raised its full-year forecast.


http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/26/busin ... tions.html

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Re: Klimate Kooks Korrekt

Postby Rich Schultz » Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:29 pm

"Hahaha oh man, how the tables have turned. And hey, guess who's behind the Institute's funding?"
Ilikebeans Feb. 15

"How the Gleick Crisis Is Killing The Global Warming Cause"

"Basically, it reads like it was written from the secret villain lair in a Batman comic. By an intern.

McArdle goes on to note that the strategy document erroneously says that the Charles G. Koch Foundation had donated $200,000 toward HI’s climate change goals, when in fact they only donated $25,000, and it was for health care work. Thus, the person who forged the document made a mistake, but one that was sure to prove explosive with climate change advocates. Here was a smoking gun that showed Big Oil (the Koch brothers) was funding climate change disinformation.

Except that wasn’t the case.

On this subject, McArdle writes “Unless there’s an explanation I’m missing, that seems to clinch it–why would health care donations show up in their climate strategy report? Unless of course, it was written by someone who doesn’t know anything about facts of the donation, but does know that the Kochs make great copy.”"
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Re: Klimate Kooks Korrekt

Postby Detritus » Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:46 pm

Rich Schultz wrote:"How the Gleick Crisis Is Killing The Global Warming Cause"

Bla bla bla subtitled: "First There Was Climategate, Now There’s Gleickgate." Climategate, you will recall, was a Breitbartian affair that managed to launch numerous investigations vindicating the scientists. So if that counts as a victory to the energy industry, the rest of us can only hope that Gleickgate is as successful.


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