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Don't get hurt... You might get tagged

Postby pulsewidth modulation » Tue Mar 20, 2007 10:43 am

I guess it won't be that far off when patients in need of government mandated "healthcare for all" land themselves in the hospital where the inevitable clash of technology, "healthcare for all" mandates, and greed will ultimately meet. The Democrats, Republicans, "insurance" industry, hospital industry, and chip manufacturers will not allow anyone "universal care" without oversight. What will that oversight look like? No implanted chip, no service for you. Who could say no when their limb is gashed? Current trends always determine future outcomes. Forget about paying for that broken leg via credit or social service hand outs, your overlords will just wave a wand behind your ear.

Get ready for your dog collars! I'm wondering if VeriChip is all about mandated "universal care"?

VeriChip Corporation, headquartered in Delray Beach, Florida, develops, markets and sells radio frequency identification, or RFID, systems used to identify, locate and "protect people" and assets.

It's always about "protection" from the unknown isn't it?

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Re: Don't get hurt... You might get tagged

Postby TheBookPolice » Tue Mar 20, 2007 10:59 am

pulsewidth modulation wrote:I guess it won't be that far off when patients in need of government mandated "healthcare for all" land themselves in the hospital where the inevitable clash of technology, "healthcare for all" mandates, and greed will ultimately meet. The Democrats, Republicans, "insurance" industry, hospital industry, and chip manufacturers will not allow anyone "universal care" without oversight. What will that oversight look like? No implanted chip, no service for you. Who could say no when their limb is gashed? Current trends always determine future outcomes. Forget about paying for that broken leg via credit or social service hand outs, your overlords will just wave a wand behind your ear.

Get ready for your dog collars! I'm wondering if VeriChip is all about mandated "universal care"?

VeriChip Corporation, headquartered in Delray Beach, Florida, develops, markets and sells radio frequency identification, or RFID, systems used to identify, locate and "protect people" and assets.

It's always about "protection" from the unknown isn't it?


Leaving your straw man out of this discussion, are you aware that the US sucks ass when it comes to rates of medical error? Care to revise your bullshit statement? Or do you have a better idea?

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Postby supereightsnate » Tue Mar 20, 2007 11:31 am

Alot of countries already have univeral health care/socialized medicine. Is Canada a police state?

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Postby Michael Patrick » Tue Mar 20, 2007 11:34 am

I wonder if the microchip the aliens implanted in my ass qualifies me for healthcare for life?

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Postby Bwis53 » Tue Mar 20, 2007 12:08 pm

So many corporations are understaffed,(they think they're saving money) I'm afraid that even this, would not prevent "mistakes".

On my previous job, I had GHC insurance. I went to UW Hospitals for a hip scan. When I checked in, they made a little red plastic card for me. I asked why I was receiving a UW card, when I was with Group Health. They replied,"If you ever have to come back here again, we'll know who you are!"

All in all, I have to say, UW knocked themselves out for my mom.

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Postby pulsewidth modulation » Tue Mar 20, 2007 12:58 pm

supereightssocialist wrote:Alot of countries already have univeral health care/socialized medicine.


The US has a socialized system as well. Anyone can go to the emergency room and pass of their expenses onto the tax payer. What's your point?

What does Canada have to do with the US healthcare system?

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Postby TheBookPolice » Tue Mar 20, 2007 1:16 pm

pulsewidth modulation wrote:
supereightssocialist wrote:Alot of countries already have univeral health care/socialized medicine.


The US has a socialized system as well. Anyone can go to the emergency room and pass of their expenses onto the tax payer. What's your point?

What does Canada have to do with the US healthcare system?


What does your original link have to do with universal health care?

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Postby Chuck_Schick » Tue Mar 20, 2007 1:42 pm

pulsewidth modulation wrote:Anyone can go to the emergency room and pass of their expenses onto the tax payer.

Patently untrue, jackass.

You mean to tell me you've never known anyone who's been saddled with enormous debt due to an emergency procedure without the benefit of insurance?

Well, I guess that would make sense, given that all signs point to your being a shut-in who's never set foot in the real world.

Hey everybody! Quit yer bitching! The healthcare system is alive and well because some pseudo-libertarian crank says so!
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Postby supereightsnate » Tue Mar 20, 2007 2:04 pm

pulsewidth modulation wrote:
supereightssocialist wrote:Alot of countries already have univeral health care/socialized medicine.


The US has a socialized system as well. Anyone can go to the emergency room and pass of their expenses onto the tax payer. What's your point?

What does Canada have to do with the US healthcare system?


did you not understand the point that there is no correlation between centralized health care and police state tracking? As in countries like Canada and Sweden both having centralized health care and still retaining civil liberties?

oh, and nice hatchet job on the name. But please, leave it as supereightsnate. I prefer not to be an anonymous jerkface.

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Postby Henry Vilas » Tue Mar 20, 2007 2:08 pm

Over 46 million uninsured Americans. And all they have to do for medical care is go to the ER. Brilliant!

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Postby pulsewidth modulation » Tue Mar 20, 2007 2:12 pm

Chuck_Schick wrote:
pulsewidth modulation wrote:Anyone can go to the emergency room and pass of their expenses onto the tax payer.

Patently untrue, jackass.


Tiz true... The only way a hospital can transfer the costs onto the person who went in without any form of insurance is for that person to sign off on the costs. Hospitals are not allowed to screen for insurance before entrance into emergency areas of hospitals. If the person off of the street bypasses the administration area, the hospital just assumed 100% of the expenses until the legal process determines the debt reassignment. Ask any social worker in town; they advise their clients how to do this in order to receive care a clinic is not required to provide. That's the loophole. Many people do not bypass the administration area because some hospitals know how to get people to sign off on the costs before they enter the emergency area. As for the rare catastrophic cases; there are ways to minimize their impact. Who says a huge debt has to be paid off in a timely manner? People have the right to pay whatever they can afford; hospitals are not allowed to set the payment prices for repayment. Hospitals can only hold so much artificial debt. Guess where the rest of the debt gets passed off to if a person can't pay it off in a timely manner?

All a hospital can do if a person refuses to sign any paperwork or set up a payment plan that would actually pay off the debt in a reasonable amount of time is put the debt into collection. Collection is not a debt. Guess who pays the debt? The tax payers do.

Here is your ass...

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Postby Chuck_Schick » Tue Mar 20, 2007 2:17 pm

There it is, folks! The textbook definition of socialized medicine according to our resident closet Republican crybaby.

Here is your ass, indeed.

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Postby pulsewidth modulation » Tue Mar 20, 2007 2:19 pm

supereightsnate wrote:did you not understand the point that there is no correlation between centralized health care and police state tracking?


"But, but, but... They do it in Sweden!" I love this socialist cry. I hear it all of the time. One problem; Sweden is not the US.

Did you not understand comparing Sweden and Canada's health care systems to the US's is comparing apples to oranges?

What is your last name Nate? Are you sure you are not purposely covering up your government affiliation?

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Postby TheBookPolice » Tue Mar 20, 2007 2:21 pm

pulsewidth modulation wrote:What is your last name Nate? Are you sure you are not purposely covering up your government affiliation?


pm, are you the webmaster for the site Jason linked in the 87.9 thread?

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Postby mrak » Tue Mar 20, 2007 2:29 pm

pulsewidth modulation wrote:What is your last name Nate? Are you sure you are not purposely covering up your government affiliation?

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According to wikipedia, it's important for some reason that it cover the back of the neck.

Perhaps that's what you're doing wrong, pulsewidth?


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