The crosswalk quest continues

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Re: The crosswalk quest continues

Postby bleurose » Thu May 13, 2010 9:13 am

Not nearly as big an asshole as you are. News flash - life is both tough & uncompromising. If someone has managed to get to young adulthood and hasn't figured out something as basic as how to cross a street safely and believes that the rest of the world is supposed to look out for him/her, that person WILL learn. If said person is lucky, s/he won't die in the process. Some of them will - that doesn't make ME the asshole. Nor does making the obvious observation. The individual who deserves the sympathy here is the bus driver who couldn't avoid the oblivious idiot stepping off a curb right in front of tons of moving machinery.

Quit with the faux indignation, it only makes you look like a jerk :roll:

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Re: The crosswalk quest continues

Postby kissyfish » Thu May 13, 2010 10:02 am

Driving back from downtown, I paid special attention to where there appears to be potential ped crossings, and some of them make no sense. Like just as one gets on campus drive going west, about 20 feet past the lights (and controlled intersection), am I to stop there, and by university station, is university ave to stop for pedestrians there?

It is confusing.

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Re: The crosswalk quest continues

Postby jman111 » Thu May 13, 2010 11:14 am

kissyfish wrote: ...just as one gets on campus drive going west, about 20 feet past the lights (and controlled intersection), am I to stop there...?
It is confusing.

That is a weird one. The crosswalk is "controlled" for eastbound and westbound University and eastbound Campus Drive, but not westbound Campus Drive. But, yes, I have had to stop there many times for crossers. Luckily, most pedestrians don't seem to treat this one like some of those previously mentioned- they generally wait for a break in traffic, in my experience.

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Re: The crosswalk quest continues

Postby Exploding Pinto » Thu May 13, 2010 11:35 am

bleurose wrote:Not nearly as big an asshole as you are. News flash - life is both tough & uncompromising. If someone has managed to get to young adulthood and hasn't figured out something as basic as how to cross a street safely and believes that the rest of the world is supposed to look out for him/her, that person WILL learn. If said person is lucky, s/he won't die in the process. Some of them will - that doesn't make ME the asshole.


You drop by and make fun of someone that got hit by a bus in Illinois without providing the background facts or relating it to the discussion at hand. So yeah, you're on Team Asshole.

Spare us the life lessons, and go ahead and take your news flash and shove it up your ass. This ain’t a conversation about life being tough and uncompromising, waterhead.

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Re: The crosswalk quest continues

Postby bleurose » Thu May 13, 2010 1:01 pm

My, my, aren't you touchy? Not much on comprehension either, are you, Pinto? You get to "drop into this forum" and don't add anything to the discussion and when someone calls you on it, it ties a knot in your tail. Another news flash - & apparently you need these because you're so dense - anyone gets to "drop by" on this forum. Even, apparently, you. And how exactly does a clueless pedestrian stepping off a curb into the path of a bus NOT relate to the subject at hand? This does indeed seem to be a discussion about pedestrians & vehicles & cross walks. Or did you miss all that too? And what other pertinent facts would you like which would help you understand the conversation? Because obviously you :oops: are lost.

Let me explain this part slowly so you will get it: I was not making fun of someone. Seems you don't get context either. I described an example relevant to the discussion with enough detail for normally intelligent people to understand - and you clearly did not - and made an observation that bad things can happen to people who think everyone else is looking out for them. I.E., those people get removed from the gene pool. I elaborate, for your benefit alone because everyone else seems to understand, that sometimes learning a little late about common sense and expecting everyone else to take care of you can have fatal consequences for you. Pay attention because I'm going to show you the connection here: this relates to a previous poster's comment that he isn't a mind reader when it comes to figuring out what a pedestrian is going to do when a motorist is practically in a cross walk (or not) when said pedestrian steps off a curb right in front of tons of moving machinery. See how that all ties together?

Since you happily don't make the rules about what constitutes "the conversation" around here, I don't give a shit what you think belongs or not. But in the interest of trying to keep you up to speed on this one, that was only directed at you, Mr. Hydrocephalus. If you'd pull that water-filled balloon you call a head out of your ass, you might benefit from a few things. On the other hand, if you keep your head up your ass like that, you will no doubt end up like that clueless pedestrian.

Sorry, you completed the roster for Team Asshole AND were unanimously acclaimed Captain Asshole. Now please go back to your third grade classroom, take your seat and stop annoying the rest of us. Because right now, you are on a beeline to get run over by a truck and no clue what hit you or why.

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Re: The crosswalk quest continues

Postby jjoyce » Thu May 13, 2010 2:13 pm

I kinda make the rules and I should be clear here: This thread is in the process of being wrecked. Please stop it.

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Re: The crosswalk quest continues

Postby green union terrace chair » Thu May 13, 2010 4:41 pm

When the chicken crossed the road, did it use a crosswalk?

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Re: The crosswalk quest continues

Postby narcoleptish » Fri Nov 20, 2015 9:06 am

This is awful but I'm actually surprised it took this long to happen, especially on Monroe st.

http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/ ... 0c345.html

A woman was critically injured when she and a man were struck by two vehicles while crossing Monroe Street on foot Thursday night, Madison police reported.

The incident happened shortly before 8:30 p.m. in the 3500 block of Monroe Street at Lewis Court


Apparently cars from both directions were unaware they were crossing. Nighttime and close to the curve from Nakoma rd that people fly around. I'm not saying anymore with two people in the hospital and two drivers probably having pretty shitty mornings too, but I'm just saying.

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Re: The crosswalk quest continues

Postby snoqueen » Fri Nov 20, 2015 10:23 am

On the east side in front of the Blue Plate they finally installed an on-demand flashing pedestrian crossing light by the crosswalk. This has been a big help, even though the traffic speed and density in that block is nowhere near what you have on Monroe St. Before, you'd get pedestrians crossing randomly, some aggressively and some straggling off the curb looking at their phones so it was hard to tell if they were crossing or just standing there sending a text. Now they all have to make a decision and press the button, and they get safe passage. Drivers can actually tell what's intended, and everybody is safer especially in the dark. I am down there on foot and in a vehicle regularly and I think it's a miracle more crashes haven't happened, especially in front of the Barrymore around show time.

I can't understand why they don't have a number of these on demand flashers on Monroe St. It's no panacea but it might have given everybody in last night's crash a better chance. I hope they are all OK today but they probably aren't.

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Re: The crosswalk quest continues

Postby jman111 » Fri Nov 20, 2015 10:30 am

The one on North Sherman works quite well, for the exact reasons sno discusses.

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Re: The crosswalk quest continues

Postby Henry Vilas » Fri Nov 20, 2015 10:37 am

Same with the one on E. Johnson, behind East High.

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Re: The crosswalk quest continues

Postby willystresident » Fri Nov 20, 2015 10:48 am

They need one of those at Willy and Livingston. I couldn't see traffic engineering being excited about that, but then again those knuckleheads are more concerned with pumping Isthmus workers back and forth from their suburban homes than building a real downtown. The way they treat Willy, Johnson, Gorham, and University is terrible. Those should all be two way streets with calmer traffic, and Willy shouldn't be considered an arterial at all.

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Re: The crosswalk quest continues

Postby snoqueen » Fri Nov 20, 2015 11:00 am

They discussed making Johnson and Gorham back to two-ways at length prior to the recent reconstruction of Johnson. Many people were in favor, but the complexities of re-engineering at both ends -- mainly at the west end of the pair, by campus -- were too great and too expensive to make it work at this time. The reasons made sense, even if you didn't like the present one-way pair eastbound from State to First.

The present arrangement dates to a planning document from 1962 if I remember right, and if nothing else it shows how long lasting are the results of these plans.

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Re: The crosswalk quest continues

Postby green union terrace chair » Fri Nov 20, 2015 12:22 pm

snoqueen wrote:The present arrangement dates to a planning document from 1962 if I remember right, and if nothing else it shows how long lasting are the results of these plans.

Let's be glad that they never went through on plans to build a freeway through the isthmus when other cities were bulldozing large tracts and dividing neighborhoods. I heard once that Madison is the (or one of the) largest cities to not have a freeway cutting through its downtown.

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Re: The crosswalk quest continues

Postby gargantua » Fri Nov 20, 2015 2:14 pm

Henry Vilas wrote:Same with the one on E. Johnson, behind East High.

There's even one at the intersection of Mineral Point Rd. and Owen Dr.
There, but not on Monroe St. I'm a little puzzled as to why. I understand speed may be a factor, but I have to think that there are a number of spots on Monroe that have a higher volume of pedestrian traffic.


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