Mary Burke for Governor

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Re: Mary Burke for Governor

Postby Henry Vilas » Sun Aug 03, 2014 8:16 am

snoqueen wrote:In other words, Walker really stepped in it when he started criticizing Burke for her family's business having shipped jobs overseas. His own allies are complaining, including the ones on the Wall St Journal editorial page:

http://host.madison.com/ct/news/local/w ... 963f4.html

More on outsourcing: At least 25 companies have outsourced and received state funding award since 2005

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Re: Mary Burke for Governor

Postby jonnygothispen » Sun Aug 03, 2014 4:01 pm

http://www.jsonline.com/watchdog/noquar ... 95211.html
Records show Burke, her mother and three siblings living in Wisconsin paid a total of $1.77 million in personal income taxes in 2012.

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Re: Mary Burke for Governor

Postby Stu Levitan » Mon Aug 04, 2014 1:08 am

And your point is ...?

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Re: Mary Burke for Governor

Postby Lingyu » Mon Aug 04, 2014 1:05 pm

I think that Jonny's point is that the Burke family actually pays taxes.

I see that Rauner (multi-millionaire Illinois Repub candidate for governor) has been exposed as having offshore tax evasion strategies. His handler's response to this revelation is that Quinn raised taxes on the middle class. Duh. If the multi-millionaires and corporations aren't going to pay their share of the taxes, the middle class has to pick up the slack!

Things look bad for Quinn. Let's hope that Illinois doesn't go the way of Wisconsin. Or perhaps they'll end up with Rauner while we elect Burke!

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Re: Mary Burke for Governor

Postby jonnygothispen » Fri Aug 08, 2014 2:13 pm

The Burke family pays their taxes as opposed to the Walker cronies who have received corporate tax breaks from Scot-Tea. Wasn't it $2.3 billion in corporate tax breaks over 10 years starting in early 2011? Not to mention that one of his strongest backers already paid 0 taxes before he was in office.

http://www.jsonline.com/business/beloit ... 53835.html

Diane Hendricks, the richest woman in Wisconsin, had a state income tax bill of zero for 2010, state records show.

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Re: Mary Burke for Governor

Postby Henry Vilas » Fri Aug 08, 2014 2:37 pm

Or, as Leona Helmsley once said: "Only the little people pay taxes."

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Re: Mary Burke for Governor

Postby Henry Vilas » Sat Aug 09, 2014 10:04 am

The national media is picking up on Burke and saying she has a good chance of beating Walker. How this will influence Wisconsin voters is another matter.

Will national media's view of Mary Burke give her a boost over Scott Walker?

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Re: Mary Burke for Governor

Postby pjbogart » Sat Aug 09, 2014 9:52 pm

Henry Vilas wrote:The national media is picking up on Burke and saying she has a good chance of beating Walker. How this will influence Wisconsin voters is another matter.

Will national media's view of Mary Burke give her a boost over Scott Walker?


Two thoughts on that: First, the electorate is extremely polarized and any perceived slight by the national media will be chalked up as bias and simply cause Republicans to circle their wagons. Of course, Burke doesn't need to woo Republicans so much as wooing a few of the mindy's, and the race is close enough that a small break in her favor could doom Walker.

Second, you can't out-fundraise Walker because Republicans, on a national level, consider this an important election. They'll dump as much money into this as is required to win it, but perhaps a perception that Walker losing ground that can't be regained may serve the dual purpose of boosting Burke's fundraising while streamlining Walker's (they won't quit giving, but it will be a smaller group even if it ends up simply being the Koch Brothers).

It's probably too early to start crowing about momentum. Mid-September we'll have a clearer picture of who's surging and who's simply trying to shore up the base. Or we'll simply stick with the status quo and GOTV will decide the race.

It's probably a good time to buy a new pair of shoes and pound some pavement.

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Re: Mary Burke for Governor

Postby Mad Howler » Mon Aug 11, 2014 12:17 am

Theatre is our 'national' media - sideshow.
The foolishness we are entangled with on the local/state level is, well, foolish.
Obviously, this is the main show.
Pity - we do not recognize such low hanging fruit.
Garbage in & garbage out...
Rough times for us if we cannot figure ways to take back reason.

Punch local.
Punch below the belt,
When required.

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Re: Mary Burke for Governor

Postby jonnygothispen » Wed Aug 13, 2014 9:58 am

http://news.yahoo.com/burke-gives-wisco ... ction.html

If nothing else, though, her economic blueprint has turned some heads among those who put fiscal issues first.

"This is the best, most coherent strategy document" proposed by a candidate, said John Torinus, a longtime Wisconsin business analyst and board member of WMC, which has never backed a Democrat for governor.

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Re: Mary Burke for Governor

Postby Henry Vilas » Thu Aug 28, 2014 4:58 pm

Here is something that Burke should stress when talking about the way Walker has hurt Wisconsin: State faces $281 million budget shortfall.

Gov. Scott Walker and the Republican-controlled Legislature have cut taxes by nearly $2 billion since Walker took office in 2011, including $500 million in March, a fact they've trumpeted on the campaign trail but that Democrats say has put the state's budget in jeopardy.

On Thursday, Walker and Republicans went into damage control, saying the economy is still heading in the right direction but ignoring the fact that the news means the budget will not be balanced next year.


The Wisconsin Constitution requires a balanced budget. So what will Walker cut or will additional revenue magically appear?

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Re: Mary Burke for Governor

Postby jonnygothispen » Thu Aug 28, 2014 9:43 pm

The thing that's weird is that Wisconsin law requires a balanced budget using "Cash Accounting," which is only the balance in the bank. It doesn't include any of the State's future obligations, not even the loans Walker took out. So that's why Walker borrowed $558 million in his 2011/13 budget, and is borrowing $2.05 billion in his 2013/15 budget, and throwing it in the bank, so he can falsely claim a "balanced budget" and mask the actual increased debt.

And by deferring all of the payments on his 2011/13 loan past both fiscal years in 2011/12 and 2012/13, the increased spending doesn't show up in the GAAP deficit figures either (they only cover the fiscal year-July 1 to June 30). The figure you want is "Long term Outstanding Debt."

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Re: Mary Burke for Governor

Postby PaleoLiberal » Fri Aug 29, 2014 8:12 am

pjbogart wrote:I donated $50 a couple of weeks ago and was immediately bombarded with about ten solicitations for more political donations. That's not a reason not to support Burke and other candidates, but it's a good reason not to answer your phone for about a week unless you recognize the number.


It never stops.

My wife is a Republican, at least in theory. The GOP candidates the past couple of decades have been so bad on the national and state levels she votes for the donkey MUCH more often than the elephant.

For whatever reason, she has a special hatred for the Bush family. Understandable. She also, at one point, decided she really, really liked John Kerry. Uh, OK. So, back in 2004, she donated about $25 to the DNC.

Apparently, the DNC gives out or sells its lists of donors to all sorts of lefties.

For years afterwards, the calls were pretty continuous. Every Democratic or generally liberal organization around called her for money. We even got calls during the 2012 election cycle. We even changed our phone number, and the calls still didn't stop.

By this time the calls are a lot less frequent. I would expect a few calls close to the election, and probably more calls in 2016.

The confusion I get on the other end when I tell them DW is a Republican is really amusing.

So, I decided never to give money to any candidate, no matter how deserving. A decade or more of phone solicitations is too high a price to pay.

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Re: Mary Burke for Governor

Postby HawkHead » Fri Aug 29, 2014 8:15 am

Henry Vilas wrote:Here is something that Burke should stress when talking about the way Walker has hurt Wisconsin: State faces $281 million budget shortfall.

Gov. Scott Walker and the Republican-controlled Legislature have cut taxes by nearly $2 billion since Walker took office in 2011, including $500 million in March, a fact they've trumpeted on the campaign trail but that Democrats say has put the state's budget in jeopardy.

On Thursday, Walker and Republicans went into damage control, saying the economy is still heading in the right direction but ignoring the fact that the news means the budget will not be balanced next year.


The Wisconsin Constitution requires a balanced budget. So what will Walker cut or will additional revenue magically appear?


It's expenditures not expenses for non-profit accounting. As stated above we are cash basis for our budget. Call the bank tell them the loan repayment will be made after the end of the fiscal year and viola no cash basis budget deficit.

For non-profits not only do you have to look at their Statement of Financial Activities (Income Statements in the for profit world) but also the Statement of Net Assets (Balance Sheet).

The Statement of Net Assets will tell you the total liabilities that entity is responsible for.

Another great place to look is the Statement of Cash Flows. That will actually tell you where all the money that came in and went out came from.

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Re: Mary Burke for Governor

Postby Henry Vilas » Mon Sep 01, 2014 8:41 am

Wisconsin's debt averages $4,400 per taxpayer.

The shortage puts Wisconsin as the 30th worst state in terms of each taxpayer’s share of state debt. The $4,400 is 10 percent of the average citizen’s personal income of $43,149, the report says."


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